The Daily Update at the Com

[TB666]

well to be fair he never promised the patch would be out today.
Still it looked like it would have since there wasn't any issues with the actual patch which was the thing that could have caused a delay.
Instead it turned out to be STEAM that caused the issue.
Sad but I guess waiting one day won't kill us.

[Lemur]

I'd rather have more communication than less. If that means that we will sometimes have expectations raised and then deferred, so be it. Better than a black wall of "when it's done."

[AussieGiant]

I'd rather have more communication than less. If that means that we will sometimes have expectations raised and then deferred, so be it. Better than a black wall of "when it's done."

110% behind that comment.

[TB666]

I'd rather have more communication than less. If that means that we will sometimes have expectations raised and then deferred, so be it. Better than a black wall of "when it's done."

Indeed.
If you go by TWC(unfortunately) they make it seem like it's best just to keep their mouth shut because they will threaten with lawsuits if you don't release it, since they think they said "it will be out tomorrow" instead of the what they really said "We hope that it will be out tomorrow", thus treating it like a verbal contract or something.
Happy that the .orgians(or something) is more calm in this matter.

[Balbus]

Indeed.
If you go by TWC(unfortunately) they make it seem like it's best just to keep their mouth shut because they will threaten with lawsuits if you don't release it, since they think they said "it will be out tomorrow" instead of the what they really said "We hope that it will be out tomorrow", thus treating it like a verbal contract or something.
Happy that the .orgians(or something) is more calm in this matter.

No kidding. It's pretty scary over at TWC. Some of the posters there seem to be genuinely deranged. I'm not joking. You'd think CA had murdered their entire families or something. I've never seen anything quite like it.

[TB666]

No kidding. It's pretty scary over at TWC. Some of the posters there seem to be genuinely deranged. I'm not joking. You'd think CA had murdered their entire families or something. I've never seen anything quite like it.

It was the same during the RTW era(which again the .org was the more reasonable site back then).
All the forums were pretty much hot-zones back then.
TWC handled itself well during M2TW due to a zero tolerance being issued on CA-bashing.
Some people got banned for simply looking at the CA-logo the wrong way but overall we had a more reasonable discussion and far more productive.
Today there is none, any thread being created is usually derailed after a few posts resulting in whining about bugs and other issues.
I have been flamed quite alot of times for simply trying to put things into perspective.
Hopefully the patch will calm things down a bit but I can promise you that some of them will complain regardless, no doubt about the same issues despite them being fixed(some of people complaining about the load-save bug in RTW complained about it even after it was fixed).
Kinda strange that CA doesn't post here that often despite being a better forum to communicate with their customers.

[Ordani]

Kinda strange that CA doesn't post here that often despite being a better forum to communicate with their customers.

Where-ever CA people are will be the forum perceived as most desirable to be using to most people.

[Phog_of_War]

I find it funny that some of the same people who said

"Take your time CA, we are willing to wait for even 2 to 3 months."

Are the same people who now say

"Wut? No patch today?!? That is just wrong CA!! You promised!!!!!!!"


Side note: post #100

[Veresov]

No kidding. It's pretty scary over at TWC. Some of the posters there seem to be genuinely deranged. I'm not joking. You'd think CA had murdered their entire families or something. I've never seen anything quite like it.

You must be new to the internet and its forums. Angry posts and contention are a trademark of game forums particularly when a game is released in an unfinished and buggy manner. There are enough acknowledgements from CA on .COM on this to ensure that no sane person argues that point.

TWC is more of a hardcore gamer site than the .ORG in fairness. You can see that by the huge number of mods and posts over there. At any time there can be hundreds of users on there. There are more veterans there and a high percentage of them are unhappy with Empire. They have high standards and higher expectations. A lot of the issues and clamour being raised have merit. I myself couldn't play the game until the latest 1.2 patch.

[TB666]

You must be new to the internet and its forums. Angry posts and contention are a trademark of game forums particularly when a game is released in an unfinished and buggy manner.

That is more correct.
Just look at the left4dead forum when they released the free expansion pack.
People were whining all over the place demanding their money back.
It looked exactly like TWC and yet Left4dead is a well-made game.

[Marquis of Roland]

W00T, there it is, the SFX loading thing, if they fix that I'll have no more crashes! Frickin' Awesome

[Majora1988]

These are all great news, especially the improvements to boarding, and reinforcements.

[Barkhorn1x]

A very nice list of items. This combined with the testing to get it right has me very optimistic about the future.

BTW, on the subject of TWC posters, TB666 was NOT exaggerating one iota. I was over there yesterday and it was surreal.

[johnhughthom]

Yep, they are already complaining about what is not on the patch list. I usually just check the EB forum when I go there, the rest is depressing.

[Servius]

Will someone post once they actually are able to download the patch? I assume CA means "later tonight" in GB, where it's 7:00pm now (on BST!), rather than "tonight" in the US. I would assume he means in the next 1-2 hours, but it would still be good to get a post from a player when it's actually out to make sure Steam is working.

[Lemur]

Addendum:

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Dear All,

To reiterate, this patch is savegame compatible but you'll see a lot more of the gameplay benefits and AI behaviour if you start a new campaign. This is to do with the what we call 'start pos'ing' where the AI calculates a strategy at the outset.

Additionally, as with the recent note on naval invasions. The basic fix is in, meaning the AI can now choose this tactic and may do so. However, it will likely be rare until we've played with all the associated values (There are a lot). We started work on the next upgrade patch in parallel a few weeks ago and I can say for certain this area will continue to improve, so please stay with us.

Thanks again for being so patient, hopefully you'll find as our community beta testers did, that this patch really adds a lot to Empire.

Kind regards,
Kieran

[Slaists]

So, no mention of a fix for the broken inter AI diplomacy? I mean, currently, AI factions never make peace with each other. By mid-game, pretty much everyone (in a theater) is at war with everyone else and the player faction is the only one that can trade in a meaningful way.

[mmk]

Will someone post once they actually are able to download the patch? I assume CA means "later tonight" in GB, where it's 7:00pm now (on BST!), rather than "tonight" in the US. I would assume he means in the next 1-2 hours, but it would still be good to get a post from a player when it's actually out to make sure Steam is working.

Updating just now from Steam...