Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

[AggonyDuck]

Well i have also played with Sasaki ever since the first mafia hosted by GH. Though i havent played in half of a year, so i might be bit rusty. My personal style of playing is very much based on intuition about other players. Now do i think that we are likely to gather solid evidence against Sasaki, based on clear mistakes from him if he is mafia? My answer is no. I respect his capabilities enough to know that he can fool the town. Nevertheless, my intuition says that Sasakis behaviour is somehow off. Am i right with my hunch? That remains to be seen. If at this point i should name the mafia players based solely on intuition and scarce evidence wich supports (largely only inside my own head), that hunch.

I would bet that Sasaki, Tincow and Beskar are the ninjas and Stephen Asen and Duckie are the traitors. It will be fun to see if i did get any of them right when the game ends.

Well your intuition is wrong atleast in my case, as I have already claimed my innocence and will never sully my integrity for a mafia victory. It is worth far more than a successful deception.

[Beskar]

I am indeed flattered by your high opinion of me.

I never said you was a Fool or Stupid.

I don't actually insult people for real unless it has the word "Seriously" or some justification to why I think that.

On the side-note, you killed Olavi.

[Prince Cobra]

I never said you was a Fool or Stupid.

I don't actually insult people for real unless it has the word "Seriously" or some justification to why I think that.

On the side-note, you killed Olavi.

I am indeed flattered by your high opinion about me. Hmm...

[Kagemusha]

Interesting assumption. I am indeed interested to hear your logic, Kagemusha-san.

Its just intuition and some suspicions. I will inform you publically immediately if something concrete surfaces.

[Caius]

I never said you was a Fool or Stupid.

I don't actually insult people for real unless it has the word "Seriously" or some justification to why I think that.

On the side-note, you killed Olavi.

How do you know? You were there???!!!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

fos:caius

too much punctuation = fake

[CountArach]

Takeda-sama, could you look at the time and date of these messages?

I've got them saved on my laptop, so I'll check later.

Should I pm my battle rating to CA since I'm in a duel?

Yes, definitely.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

fos:caius

too much punctuation = fake

Do you consider this a tell even when the writer is not a primary English speaker?

[Gregoshi]

Do you consider this a tell even when the writer is not a primary English speaker?

I get the feeling he was yanking my chain Seamus.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry guys, been out all day and now I don't have enough energy to do anything aside from dropping. I'll work on this tomorrow.

[naut]

That was quite the read. Now back to assignments.

[Beskar]

Night time = Snooze-ville, you have to be honest.

[KukriKhan]

So... hunches.

Hunch #1: by now (if not from the beginning) the mafia-types know who each other are.

Hunch #2: some of the mafia-types can investigate (hence no 6-kill nights yet; 1 or 2 of them investigate, intead of killing).

Hunch #3: with 60+ players to start, mafia investigators must be able to query 2,3 or 4 names per night). I'm guessing '3', so they have a full hit list, as a group.

Hunch #4: I think townies are almost out of investigators/detectives (geisha's?).

Hunch #5: CA's non-responder list is probably a good start-point for suspected mafia.

All these hunches are probably glaringly obvious to the more experienced players, but I ain't that bright, so I thought I'd throw them out there to help me (and others) figure out our next move(s).

Do any of those 5 hunches seem wildly wrong to anyone?

If not, I think our lynch-list should start working off of CA's list of players who didn't send in battle-ratings. Those names are either guilty, or lurking (non-helpful).

[TinCow]

Do any of those 5 hunches seem wildly wrong to anyone?

No, but I do think there's an even chance that #2 (mafia investigators) can simply be explained as mafioso intentionally not killing or failing to get their kills in on time. In a game this large, probability dictates that some mafioso will be new players or other such people who are more prone to being absent from the forums for a long time or missing orders for other reasons. In addition, it's a common tactic to intentionally not kill to max potential. Mafia investigators is certainly a possibility, but I think these other two options need to be considered along side it.

[KukriKhan]

No, but I do think there's an even chance that #2 (mafia investigators) can simply be explained as mafioso intentionally not killing or failing to get their kills in on time. In a game this large, probability dictates that some mafioso will be new players or other such people who are more prone to being absent from the forums for a long time or missing orders for other reasons. In addition, it's a common tactic to intentionally not kill to max potential. Mafia investigators is certainly a possibility, but I think these other two options need to be considered along side it.

Yeah, I can see all that as explaining why we haven't had max killings yet. Are my numbers off, or do you agree that we face 6 killers (or more): 4 ninja, 2 traitors, ?? serial killer(s)?

Also: what if our detective- or doctor-types didn't get a battle-rating? That might explain some of the CA non-responders. Do you think everybody got some kind of battle-rating, to facilitate the day duels? It makes sense to me that all players would get one, because who knows who would challenge whom?

[Prince Cobra]

Yeah, I can see all that as explaining why we haven't had max killings yet. Are my numbers off, or do you agree that we face 6 killers (or more): 4 ninja, 2 traitors, ?? serial killer(s)?

Also: what if our detective- or doctor-types didn't get a battle-rating? That might explain some of the CA non-responders. Do you think everybody got some kind of battle-rating, to facilitate the day duels? It makes sense to me that all players would get one, because who knows who would challenge whom?

I think there is a limit of 3 kills (look the rules) for the Ninjas. Andres, is this so?

[Caius]

I think there is a limit of 3 kills (look the rules) for the Ninjas. Andres, is this so?

The rules say that those three ninjas are able to perform 3 kills. It doesn't state if one dies then they have one less kill.

[Andres]

~~~ Swords in the Moon ~~~

Night 4 - Conclusion.

Hour of the Rat

Kawazoe Koiki (Little_Grizzly) went to his room. He was tired. No, not tired, exhausted. Not only was there the ever present paranoia and the fear of his beloved Lord getting killed by cowardly assassins, there were also samurai who seemed to follow his lead.

Allthough he would be very flattered under different circumstances, it all made the current experience even more exhausting. Because of these followers, he felt like his responsability was doubled, or even tripled.

Kawazoe smiled. If this would end well after all, he surely would be promoted; maybe one day he would become a general in the army of the Takeda clan.

With this encouraging thoughts, Kawazoe went to sleep.

Alas, his dreams of generalship in the army of the great Takeda would never come true. They were abruptly ended by a nightly dagger slicing his throat.

~~~

Hour of the Rat

Konno Takumi (Reenk Roink) was pretty sure they made the right decision today. After all, he had followed the lead of the samurai he admired most, Kawazoe Koiki. Konno was a humble man, but he was no fool. He knew a great and mighty man when he saw one and his idol Kawazoe certainly had a great future ahead of him.

Konno knew that all would end well if he just kept following the lead of his great example. And maybe, just maybe, one day, his idol would reward his loyalty and would accept him as his right hand.

As he got carried away by his imagination to a life of glorious victories won by his favourite samurai, by then a mighty general, Konno smiled.

Unfortunately, his dreams came to an abrupt end when two strong, dark gloved hands squeezed his throat. A few minutes later, Konno was dead, his wide opened eyes staring at the ceiling.

~~~

Hour of the Rat

Fujimoto Heikichi (Louis VI the Fat)'s body was covered with sweat. Yes, it was told that for a samurai there was no greater honor than to die in the service of his master, but Fujimoto disagreed. What good was a dead samurai? How on earth could a dead samurai serve his master? What utter nonsense! What good was a huge pile of dead corpses for Lord Takeda? How would Lord Takeda ever unite the country with only dead men on his side?

Constantly looking to the left and right and behind him, he almost ran to his room. He opened and closed his door at least 7 times to see if anybody had followed him.

Fujimoto covered the floor with empty bottles, cups, plates and whatever would make a lot of noise if someone would accidentally stumble upon it.

Still wearing his full armor and his both swords, he went to sleep.

Hours passed and Fujimoto finally started to calm down. When has about to fall asleep, he heard a noise. He quickly jumped up and looked around him.

With a devastating blow, his chest got smashed with a kanabo. Fujimoto tried to scream, but his longs held no air. A second blow with the kanabo broke his upper left arm. A third blow hit his chest again. Almost unconscious, he felt another blow, breaking his right under arm. Finally, a fifth blow smashed his head, spreading blood, pieces of bone and brains all over the room.

The killer quickly left the room unnoticed.

~~~

Hour of the Ox.

A man tried to sneak his way into the room of Hamano Michiyo (Sasaki Kojiro). Holding a razor sharp wakizashi in his hand, he walked down the corridor leading to the room of Hamano.

Cautiously looking to the left and right, he didn’t notice the masked samurai who was hiding near the door to Hamano’s room.

As the killer was about to enter the room of Hamano, the masked samurai jumped up and casted a tremendous warcry.

The killer quickly jumped aside and started to run. After a short chase, the masked samurai lost track of the attacker.

~~~
Day 4 : Bloodier and bloodier.

Hour of the Rabbit

Lord Shingen was enjoying his breakfeast. The more attentive observant would notice however that the mighty leader looked tired. Maybe the events of the last couple of days and nights were taking its' toll?

The rumours on the courtyard didn't bode well...

When the Tiger came outside, he saw something that was sadly becoming a usual scene: dead bodies and prepared woodpiles.

Lord Takeda mounted the platform and looked at the scroll next to him.

After a brief moment, he nodded towards Fujiwara Tadayoshi (El Diablo) and Sanada Yukimura (YLC).

Both men bowed deeply for their lord. One of the officers nodded at both fighters. No armor, no hidden weapons, just katana and wakizashi.

Both warriors bowed to the officer and to each other.

Fujiwara unsheeted his katana and walked towards his opponent. Both men walked in circles, as if they were performing a dance, a deadly dance.

Suddenly Fujiwara’s katana struck forward with magnificent speed. Sanada’s katana broke into little pieces when he blocked the devestating blow.

With a victorious smile on his face, Fujiwara lifted his katana and let it come down for another blow. Sanada, who didn’t have the chance to unsheeth his wakizashi jumped aside and nearly avoided the sword. His opponent however was temporarily unbalanced and Sanada managed to deal out a hard kick on his knee.

A sickening sound could be heard and Fujiwara fell. With his wakizashi in his right hand, Sanada jumped above his opponent. Fujiwara managed to plant his fist in Sanada’s stomach, making Sanada throw up his breakfeast. While he was coming to his senses, Fujiwara’s katana came down. In a reflex, Sanada rolled to the left, barely avoiding the blade and in one fluent movement he pierced through Fujiwara’s belly with his wakizashi.

While Fujiwara tried to stop the bleeding of the deadly wound, Sanada picked up the katana of his opponent and with one clean blow, he seperated Fujiwara’s head from his body.

Sanada nodded respectfully towards the body of his opponent and made a deep bow for Lord Shingen, who nodded back.


The samurai and their Lord started the proceedings. Again...

~~~

Alive (43):

TinCow
Quintus.JC
GeneralHankerchief
FactionHeir
Caius
Glenn
Beefy187
Ichigo
Warluster
White_Eyes:D
Sasaki Kojiro
Stephen Assen
Peasant Phill
Kukrikhan
Captain Blackadder
A Very Super Market
Gobbledygook
Psychonaut
taka
Jolt
YLC
Rhyfelwyr
Beaver
AggonyDuck
Beskar
atheotes
Kagemusha
CountArach
Husar
Death is yonder
Tristan de Castelreng
Chimpyang
Yoyoma1910
TosaInu
Seamus Fermanagh
Banquo's Ghost
Crazed Rabbit
Haudegen
woad&fangs
ajaxfetish
glyphz
Dutch_guy
Yaropolk

Killed (14):
Khazaar
spL1tp3r50nal1ty
Lord Winter
The Spartan
Iskander III
Shinseikhaan
Olavi
Thermal Mercury
Chaotix27
pevergreen
Gregoshi

Reenk Roink
LittleGrizzly
Louis VI the Fat

Fallen in battle (3):
Northnovas
Ignoramus

El Diablo

Lynched (3):
Askthepizzaguy
Sigurd
shlin28

WoG/Suicide (1):
Xehh II

~~~

It's now day. You can start voting. Day will last for +/- 24 hours; that is until 9.30 pm (GMT+1).

[Seamus Fermanagh]

For 3N + 1GF, I would guess 3 kills and 1 investigation.

The first geisha died too quickly to have been researched first. They got lucky. Gregoshi was trying to play a nice balance between over-active and "I'm new," which I suspect delayed him getting whacked at first but did NOT stop them from investigating. Once known.....

That is all supposition of course, but I think it fits the facts and the kill descriptions thus far.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The killer quickly jumped aside and started to run.

Aw, poor baby got scared!

[TosaInu]

Huh? Hmm.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Huh? Hmm.

Vote:TosaInu

[Beskar]

Some one used a protector on Sasaki?

Also, the Ninja got serious.

[Reenk Roink]

I am unsure of how to feel towards the killers. On the one hand they have murdered Master. On the other hand they followed it up and murdered me so that I may immediately meet Master in the afterlife.

I will seek the opinion of Master on this matter and send word down to you.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Beefy
Challenge: TosaInu

Somebody had to do it.

[TosaInu]

So, you are not a ninja, but either a samurai or a traitor (fake attack).

[Beskar]

I am unsure of how to feel towards the killers. On the one hand they have murdered Master. On the other hand they followed it up and murdered me so that I may immediately meet Master in the afterlife.

I will seek the opinion of Master on this matter and send word down to you.

It was intentional, as if they only got one of you, the other would get them.

Lous the Fat VI voted for Stephen Assen before his death. However, it was during the Hour of the Rat, not the Ox.

Who protected Sasaki and why? Whoever did, did they know Sasaki is a innocent townie, or they know Sasaki is a mafia-role and so used powers of protection on him to stop a traitor killing him. Who has protection capabilities? The Ninja-master, Shinobi, something else.

The Sasaki question needs to be answered asap. While it was good for him, we don't know if it is good for us.

[Prince Cobra]

It was intentional, as if they only got one of you, the other would get them.

Lous the Fat VI voted for Stephen Assen before his death. However, it was during the Hour of the Rat, not the Ox.

Who protected Sasaki and why? Whoever did, did they know Sasaki is a innocent townie, or they know Sasaki is a mafia-role and so used powers of protection on him to stop a traitor killing him. Who has protection capabilities? The Ninja-master, Shinobi, something else.

The Sasaki question needs to be answered asap. While it was good for him, we don't know if it is good for us.

I think Sasaki was killed attempted to be killed by traitors. Shinobi is the other name of ninja. Pro-town or not, they act in the same way.

[TosaInu]

What you mean Beskar? A mafia traitor?

[Gregoshi]

The other night the pever clan was off-ed. Last night the LG clan was hit. The ninjas don't like organization apparently - IC or OOC.