Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

[Beefy187]

Is it possible for the mafias to have a forged pms? Like a cover pms?
I think they do in most mafia games. So pm doesn't give us much clues.

Andres did say those with low duel score could beat the better warrior, but we have nothing better to go on.

Vote: TinCow
Challenge: GH

Lets end this already GH

[Death is yonder]

I think Andres suggested that lower battle ratings can defeat higher battle ratings is possibly due to percentage.

Eg: Equal % = 50% Chance for each person

Rating=-0 opponent= 50% ? Player X = 5 Player Y = 5
Rating=-2 opponent= 40%? Player X = 4 Player Y= 6
Rating =-4 Opponent= 30%? Player X = 3 Player Y = 7
Rating = -7 Opponent = 15%? Player X = 2 Player Y = 9
Rating = -9 Opponent = 10%? Player X = 1 Player Y = 10
Rating = -10 Opponent = 5%? Player X = 0 Player Y = 10
Rating= -11 Opponent = 0%? Player X = -1 Player Y = 10

I presume this to be a rough idea of how things are probably going for duels.

Dunno who to vote.

[Beskar]

Unless TinCow had a cover pm, he is innocent. I am innocent but people just don't like me,they are murderers.

[Husar]

I think Andres suggested that lower battle ratings can defeat higher battle ratings is possibly due to percentage.

Eg: Equal % = 50% Chance for each person

Rating=-0 opponent= 50% ? Player X = 5 Player Y = 5
Rating=-2 opponent= 40%? Player X = 4 Player Y= 6
Rating =-4 Opponent= 30%? Player X = 3 Player Y = 7
Rating = -7 Opponent = 15%? Player X = 2 Player Y = 9
Rating = -9 Opponent = 10%? Player X = 1 Player Y = 10
Rating = -10 Opponent = 5%? Player X = 0 Player Y = 10
Rating= -11 Opponent = 0%? Player X = -1 Player Y = 10

I presume this to be a rough idea of how things are probably going for duels.

Dunno who to vote.

How about a die is thrown (random number generated, it's an excel sheet after all) and then the number of the die is added to the duel rating and whoever has the higher number wins this round, IIRC every battle consists of three rounds and I guess whoever wins more rounds wins in the end or something like that. It could be even more complicated, Sigurd is pretty clever and noone knows what formulae he comes up with when he sits in his dark chamber and does....dark things...

[Sigurd]

How about a die is thrown (random number generated, it's an excel sheet after all) and then the number of the die is added to the duel rating and whoever has the higher number wins this round, IIRC every battle consists of three rounds and I guess whoever wins more rounds wins in the end or something like that. It could be even more complicated, Sigurd is pretty clever and noone knows what formulae he comes up with when he sits in his dark chamber and does....dark things...

If Andres followed my formulae from Midgard II, then the battle mechanics are quite simple (it is basically the battle mechanic from the game Risk).
The duel score determines how many "soldiers" each player have. Each soldier has a die. In each round three "soldiers" from each team can fight each other.

Let's say TinCow had a duel score of 3 and YLC had a duel score of 3. They would have 3 dice each to battle with.

Round 1:
Since YLC challenged TinCow he goes first. He roles: 2 4 3. Then TinCow roles: 4 3 1
You then match the dice:
Attacker: 4 3 2
Defender: 4 3 1

The attacker is at a disadvantage since he will lose dice that are even with the defender's dice.
YLC have one die left while TinCow has two.

Round 2:

YLC: 6
TinC: 5 4

The attacker beats one of the dice of the defender they are both down to one die each.

Round 3:

YLC: 5
TinC: 5

They both roll a 5, but since defender dice are more powerfull, the attacker loses.

TinCow wins and should get a bonus point for gaining experience.

That is IF Andres used my system from Midgard...

[Yaropolk]

Andres mentioned that he rolls dice for the battle results. I can think of 2 ways he could have implemented this:

Roll dice x number of times, then add battle score to the sum. Assuming these aren't 27 sided nerd dice, each point of difference between battle scores contributes roughly 1/6 or 16% to victory odds.

The other technique would be to roll dice the same number of times as your battle score and add the rolls up. This will give more advantage to the higher score since for every point of combat rating he will get 1-6 more points. Someone smarter than me can figure out the odds

I think Andres suggested that lower battle ratings can defeat higher battle ratings is possibly due to percentage.

Eg: Equal % = 50% Chance for each person

Rating=-0 opponent= 50% ? Player X = 5 Player Y = 5
Rating=-2 opponent= 40%? Player X = 4 Player Y= 6
Rating =-4 Opponent= 30%? Player X = 3 Player Y = 7
Rating = -7 Opponent = 15%? Player X = 2 Player Y = 9
Rating = -9 Opponent = 10%? Player X = 1 Player Y = 10
Rating = -10 Opponent = 5%? Player X = 0 Player Y = 10
Rating= -11 Opponent = 0%? Player X = -1 Player Y = 10

I presume this to be a rough idea of how things are probably going for duels.

Dunno who to vote.

[Gregoshi]

Is it possible for the mafias to have a forged pms? Like a cover pms?
I think they do in most mafia games. So pm doesn't give us much clues.

The role PMs thus far posted seem very familiar to this dead geisha-who-was-pretending-to-be-a-samurai. So, much like this modest geisha, they reveal little about what's underneath and what goes on under the covers. I shan't kiss and tell. I'm not that kind of girl. But I do know how to flirt.

[Beskar]

Alright, I am back from my exams, I will be reading through the thread now.

[atheotes]

The role PMs thus far posted seem very familiar to this dead geisha-who-was-pretending-to-be-a-samurai. So, much like this modest geisha, they reveal little about what's underneath and what goes on under the covers. I shan't kiss and tell. I'm not that kind of girl. But I do know how to flirt.

So did you get a cover role?

[Beskar]

Ok, I read the thread. I was tempted to slap a few people for some stupid comments, however, since I am not the Mafia and I believe TinCow isn't a Mafia member either, and the only susipicious person on CA's lsit is Tristan de Castrelreng, I will vote for him.

Vote: Tristan de Castrelreng.

Tincow doesn't look guilty to me, also his PM allegelly from Andres about increased duel score looked genuine and consistant with the score system. Beskar's might appears to be aggresive, but I'm increasingly begin to believe that he is really innocent.

Thanks Quintus. As for the whole aggressive thing, I even explained the action during the night phase, it was a tactic called "Pressure Can" in order to try to expose Stephen Asen's role, if he had one, then I stopped it and apolgoised, as I didn't actually want to OOC end up offending Stephen Asen for real.

[Quintus.JC]

Ok, I read the thread. I was tempted to slap a few people for some stupid comments, however, since I am not the Mafia and I believe TinCow isn't a Mafia member either, and the only susipicious person on CA's lsit is Tristan de Castrelreng, I will vote for him.

Vote: Tristan de Castrelreng.



Thanks Quintus. As for the whole aggressive thing, I even explained the action during the night phase, it was a tactic called "Pressure Can" in order to try to expose Stephen Asen's role, if he had one, then I stopped it and apolgoised, as I didn't actually want to OOC end up offending Stephen Asen for real.

As far as I can tell neither you, Tincow or Stephen A. strikes me as guilty. However Tincow is a very experienced player capable of ever-changing playing style both as town or scum. As for you I don't see much wrong with aggressive behaviour to pressure others into making mistakes, as long as that aggressiveness remains in game. I did get annoyed with your editing tally a little bit. As for Stephen it's the first time I've played with him, can't really say much about him but I couldn't see anything solid when people bandwaggoned him and nearly got him lynched.

Retracing my vote I was considering of putting my vote on Taka, but Beefy came and out and gave a credible in his defence. So I suppose we'll concentrate on him later or Andres will just WoG him if he continues to be too busy in RL.

[Rhyfelwyr]

I don't believe this I have 3 votes for not sending in my duel score even though I did.

CA GET HERE NOW AND TELL THEM!

[Gregoshi]

So did you get a cover role?

That's a rather direct thing to say to say to a girl. But I should be nice to you atheotes, because I started it by saying a lewd thing.

[atheotes]

That's a rather direct thing to say to say to a girl. But I should be nice to you atheotes, because I started it by saying a lewd thing.

Apologies....my English is as crude as my ways.

[Gregoshi]

Apologies....my English is as crude as my ways.

No need to apologize atheotes. I was just play games with puns and double meanings and you were my foil. You are a samurai and a gentleman in my eyes...until proven otherwise.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yeesh, the duel result is a perfectly legitimate reason to lynch me and there's not much more I can say about that one. The role PM thing is getting exasperating though. I've never played another game in which pressuring a lurker and exposing townie role PMs was considered scummy.

The role PMs thus far posted seem very familiar to this dead geisha-who-was-pretending-to-be-a-samurai. So, much like this modest geisha, they reveal little about what's underneath and what goes on under the covers. I shan't kiss and tell. I'm not that kind of girl. But I do know how to flirt.

This is confirmation that cover pm's were sent out--there was no confirmation before this. TinCow's contradictions go in a full circle. First it is proof of innocence, then it is no proof at all, then it is back to being proof again.

[Gregoshi]

Sasaki! You understand women well for a samurai.

I wonder how
he handles his
sword?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki! You understand women well for a samurai.

I wonder how
he handles his
sword?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasaki_Kojirō

Sasaki later became skilled in the wielding of a nōdachi, and used one he called "The Laundry-Drying Pole" as his main weapon.

[Haudegen]

Ok, so the defense with role-pm´s is useless.

In this case, i will

vote: TinCow