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    To BESKARRRR

    I offered you a compromise, an honourable death for both of us. You declined shamefully claiming that death is not the purpose of the samurai even when he has to serve the master. So be it. Die then.

    Challenge: Beskar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Asen View Post
    To BESKARRRR

    I offered you a compromise, an honourable death for both of us. You declined shamefully claiming that death is not the purpose of the samurai even when he has to serve the master. So be it. Die then.

    Challenge: Beskar


    whats up with you two... now i am suspicious that it is all a game to distract people...
    FOS: Stephen Asen and Beskar

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    Vote:GH....needs a little more pressure
    Challenge:AggonyDuck

    "I want my duel sometime..."



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    Quote Originally Posted by White_eyes:D View Post
    Vote:GH....needs a little more pressure
    Challenge:AggonyDuck

    "I want my duel sometime..."




    Why do people insist on challenging me? Is it because I will die a horrible death? Either way I can not understand your logic, especially when I've given my word that I am innocent and my words holds true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910 View Post
    This is true. Though I have thought you suspicious in the past, I shall look elsewhere for villainy today.

    Unvote:GH

    vote:AggonyDuck


    Challenge Yaropolk
    Quick to jump on someone - must be pretty confident of your battle rating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaropolk View Post
    Quick to jump on someone - must be pretty confident of your battle rating!
    I am confident of nothing.


    But, I am curious as towards who you are.

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    I shall say also this:

    In all things,
    I am a man
    Who appreciates
    Simplicity and elegance.

    There are few things
    More elegant and
    Simplistic in their purpose
    Than a sword.

    Let us then sir,
    If our lord wills it:
    Dance.
    Last edited by Yoyoma1910; 05-01-2009 at 23:06.

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    vote: abstain for now

    I don't think the case against GH is very good now that it has been revealed that another samurai didn't bow to lord Takeda. I need some time to think of who to vote for this round.
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    but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely
    chicken's dominion maintained. ~Machiavelli

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    Quote Originally Posted by woad&fangs View Post
    vote: abstain for now

    I don't think the case against GH is very good now that it has been revealed that another samurai didn't bow to lord Takeda. I need some time to think of who to vote for this round.
    This just screams SCUM to me.....

    Quote Originally Posted by woad&fangs
    A duel between me and TinCow should result in a close fight. His victory over YLC is explainable as a fluke. However, if he defeats me by a large margin he is likely lying about his skill rating. That is why I challenged him.
    and it seemed like you tried to save TinCow the other day too.... Unvote:GH Vote:woad&fangs

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    I`m liking the theory about GH. To some people the clue about him not bowing seems too good to be true. Perhaps Andres is just helping us out a tiny bit. Anyways, i think this is the best evidence so far, especially when you combine it with the deliberate shaming of his opponent during the duel.

    vote: Generalhankerchief
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    The GH not bowing after the duel seems like way too obvious of a clue for Andres to give, so I don't think it really means anything.

    Vote:Beskar

    His posts just scream scum to me.
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    Alive (30):
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Quintus.JC
    GeneralHankerchief
    FactionHeir
    Caius
    Ichigo
    Wishazu
    White_Eyes:D
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Stephen Assen
    Peasant Phill
    Kukrikhan
    Gobbledygook
    Psychonaut
    taka
    Rhyfelwyr
    AggonyDuck
    Beskar
    atheotes
    Kagemusha
    CountArach
    Tristan de Castelreng
    Chimpyang
    Yoyoma1910
    Seamus Fermanagh
    Banquo's Ghost
    woad&fangs
    ajaxfetish
    glyphz
    Dutch_guy
    Yaropolk


    5 (max, so far) bad-guy kills per night,
    Plus 1 duel kill
    Plus 1 Lynch

    = 7 dead townies per day/night cycle, if mafia is 100% successful and town is 0% successful - not an unlikely possibility. So it looks like 3 more cycles before we lose to the bad guys. Just saying: "plan for the worst, hope for the best".

    With town at half the strength it started out with, and this being statistically the end of the mid-game/beginning of the endGame, we town can no longer afford "ride-alongs", that is: players who contribute the minimum, or less than the minimum (lurkers) to avoid suspicion.

    I'm OK with GH's no-defense defense, for now. The explanation is plausible, and I agree that Andres made an unintended clue, probably.

    I'll be voting lurkers for the next 2 nights, to clear out the deadwood, or kill lurking scum, whichever comes first.

    I recommend you think about doing the same.

    vote: Banquo's Ghost.
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    GH maybe a scum due to write up.
    However maybe it wasn't a clue at all.

    Thats 50 percent chance of GH being a scum right there, where as other players are getting voted for their behaviors and posts they made.

    If your going to let GH go with "I have no defence" defence, then please do lynch him in the near future just to make sure he was indeed innocent.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Beefy, you are a silly moo moo at times, aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy187 View Post
    GH maybe a scum due to write up.
    However maybe it wasn't a clue at all.

    Thats 50 percent chance of GH being a scum right there, where as other players are getting voted for their behaviors and posts they made.

    If your going to let GH go with "I have no defence" defence, then please do lynch him in the near future just to make sure he was indeed innocent.
    This post you just made may be proof that you are mafia.
    However maybe it isn't proof.

    So there is a 50 percent chance of you being mafia...

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    Holy moses, 1500 posts... ya, I'm pretty much lost.
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    The unprepossessing samurai who has only ever attracted notice when he was seen meditating over calligraphy walks quietly into Lord Takeda's audience room and bows.

    "My lord," he begins, in an unexpectedly firm voice, and his shoulders seem to straighten and broaden. "Having disobeyed your orders, I stand before you in dishonour and await your mercy. Yet first, I claim the right as your faithful shinobi to place my life in the balance, and in so doing tip the scales towards the protection of your person to which I am sworn, and the ultimate victory over your enemies that is your destiny.

    There are few enough of your loyal followers left that we may now strike with the knowledge I have gained, poor though it is. To delay further might bring more rewards, but I am sure that my death was always imminent and to go silent to the grave would have handed triumph to the wolves. Thus I reveal myself, attending you despite your order to stay at home, and gladly embrace whatever fate your decree.

    Our enemies are careful, and whereas my investigations have been thorough, I know that some of them can hide their intent even from such as I. My lord, you must examine some of my conclusions through that clouded glass, but doubt not that most of what I have to say will be paid for by my blood, and thus my words are iron.

    Hisao Mayurama (Quintus.JC) is one of the ninja and should be executed immediately. I have seen him stained with blood and fresh from last night's kill.

    It is to my shame that this is the only firm evidence of guilt I have gleaned, but I am sure of the innocence and loyalty of the following men still alive:


    Beskar
    Generalhankerchief
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Seamus Fermanagh
    Stephen Asen
    Tristan de Castelreng
    glyphz
    Gobbledegook


    And those that have perished:

    Crazed Rabbit
    Reenk Roink
    Sigurd
    TinCow
    Gregoshi


    Finally, it is most imperative that you execute Quintus.JC immediately, but then urgently consider the dispatch of Gamo Ujisato (KukriKhan). I have no evidence against him save that he evaded my investigations in a most unusual manner and has been carefully active in directing the yashiki's votes. I believe he has discovered me, and twice now has, with the subtlety of the spider, sought to place me into harms' way. I firmly believe he is the ninja master.

    I have done my duty, though not your will, and I shall continue in your service until you see fit to ask me to watch the dawn for the last time, or your enemies deny me that last joy."

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    Well, Banquo, I'm convinced, unless CountArach has something to say against you.

    vote: Quintus.JC

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    A look back on voting records for Kukri and Quintus:

    Quintus
    Abstain
    Sigurd
    No Vote
    No Vote
    Tristan
    None yet today

    KukriKhan
    Glenn
    Sigurd
    Shlin28
    Banquo's Ghost
    Rhyfelwyr
    Banquo's Ghost

    If BG's info is reliable, Quintus has voted for 2 confirmed innocents and otherwise avoided voting. Kukri has voted for one confirmed innocent, for BG himself, for CountArach's recommended target (Shlin), and for Glenn and Rhyfelwyr (status unknown).

    A look at the two lynch victims BG reports as innocent:

    Sigurd
    Both Kukri and Quintus voted for Sigurd. So did Shlin, who raised CountArach's suspicions afterward. So did GH (innocent according to BG) and Louis and Haudegen (both later night killed).

    That leaves Ichigo, Chimpyang, and AggonyDuck (status unknown).

    TinCow
    Neither of the two BG accused voted for TinCow. Kukri voted for Rhyfelwyr that day, and Quintus for Tristan. Of those who did vote for TC, CountArach and Husar are obviously innocent, and so is Sasaki according to BG. Haudegen was later night killed, and Beefy just fell to GH in a duel. That leaves Rhyfelwyr, Kagemusha, atheotes, White Eyes, and me, ajaxfetish (status unknown).

    Ajax

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    Quote Originally Posted by atheotes View Post
    whats up with you two... now i am suspicious that it is all a game to distract people...
    FOS: Stephen Asen and Beskar
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    Patience paid off today for the clueless.

    Vote: Quintus.JC

    Confirmed killers first. We need to slow down the 'bleeding.'
    Tally:

    GeneralHankerchief: 3 - (Beskar, Dutch_guy, Wishazu)

    Beskar: 2 - (Stephen Asen, Ichigo)
    Quintus.JC: 2 - (ajaxfetish, glyphz)

    Rhyfelwyr: 1 - (Yaropolk)
    Seamus Fermanagh: 1 - (Sasaki Kojiro)
    Sasaki Kojiro: 1 - (AggonyDuck)
    AggonyDuck: 1 - (Yoyoma1910)
    Banquo's Ghost: 1 - (KukriKhan)
    woad&fangs: 1 - (White_eyes:D

    abstain: woad&fangs

    Duel list:

    Sasaki Kojiro - AggonyDuck
    Yoyoma1910 - Yaropolk
    Stephen Asen - Beskar
    White_eyes:D - AggonyDuck
    Ding ding ding! Bandwagon time!
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    Vote: Quintus.JC

    Tally:

    Quintus.JC: 3 - (ajaxfetish, glyphz, Banquo's Ghost)
    GeneralHankerchief: 3 - (Beskar, Dutch_guy, Wishazu)

    Beskar: 2 - (Stephen Asen, Ichigo)


    Rhyfelwyr: 1 - (Yaropolk)
    Seamus Fermanagh: 1 - (Sasaki Kojiro)
    Sasaki Kojiro: 1 - (AggonyDuck)
    AggonyDuck: 1 - (Yoyoma1910)
    Banquo's Ghost: 1 - (KukriKhan)
    woad&fangs: 1 - (White_eyes:D

    abstain: woad&fangs

    Duel list:

    Sasaki Kojiro - AggonyDuck
    Yoyoma1910 - Yaropolk
    Stephen Asen - Beskar
    White_eyes:D - AggonyDuck
    Last edited by Banquo's Ghost; 05-02-2009 at 10:59. Reason: Updated tally
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    Unvote: Sasaki Kojiro
    Vote: Quintus


    Tally:

    Quintus.JC: 4 - (ajaxfetish, glyphz, Banquo's Ghost, AggonyDuck)
    GeneralHankerchief: 3 - (Beskar, Dutch_guy, Wishazu)

    Beskar: 2 - (Stephen Asen, Ichigo)


    Rhyfelwyr: 1 - (Yaropolk)
    Seamus Fermanagh: 1 - (Sasaki Kojiro)
    AggonyDuck: 1 - (Yoyoma1910)
    Banquo's Ghost: 1 - (KukriKhan)
    woad&fangs: 1 - (White_eyes:D

    abstain: woad&fangs

    Duel list:

    Sasaki Kojiro - AggonyDuck
    Yoyoma1910 - Yaropolk
    Stephen Asen - Beskar
    White_eyes:D - AggonyDuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
    I don't believe you but if you are not giuilty you will have to buy my trust with your blood. My proposal is the following. We make secret peace between we two and send it to Lord Takeda. Then each turn we are going to challenge the people we think are suspicious (maybe seprately since the Ninja hate teamwork). And thus, until we show who is the Ninja master and the traitors. This will mean certain death. But we have no other choice but to die for our master.


    Agreed?
    This was my suggestion, Beskar-san. And here is your shameful rejection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar
    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
    I exclude General Handkerchief automatically. He will be probably lynched.

    I would like to discuss the topic first and then to make challenges.

    Waiting impatiently. I need an immediate answer.
    There is the fundamental flaw, you said to duel people. I am a normal samurai, my duel rating sucks, so I will die since Ninja are meant to have high duel ratings.

    Part of the game is to stay alive, even if you are a townie/pro-town role, not to die.

    We would be playing the game all wrong to do suicide.
    This is the reason for my third challenge. You are a cowardly knave and you do not deserve to live!

    Edited: It seems that the next lynch is determined so this is left only as my motives for the challenge. I am not mad person ruled by blind revenge. I simply think Beskar reeks of treason (or ninjitsu)
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    BG, since you already claimed the role of the shinobi, I ask you to show your PM immediately. Why did you not show your PM in the first post? According to you your identity has already been exposed, now you've revealed in public there is really no reason to hold anything back from town now.

    Vote: Banquo's ghost

    here's my PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Andres

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    Konichi wa, Fujimoto-san

    You are one of the chosen samurai to join your master to his yashiki. This is a great honor and you are very grateful to your master.

    You have been in many battles for him and you have the scars to prove it.

    As a samurai, you live to serve and there is no greater honor then to die in the service of your master.

    You will protect Takeda Shingen-sama with your life.

    Battle rating: 5

    Abilities:
    - During the day, you can vote for the players that you consider to be suspicous, as explained in the rules in the first post of the game thread.
    - You can also challenge one other player to a duel during the day. If the kami of the mountain decide that you have to duel, then that duel will be fought at sunrise, right before the start of the next day.
    - During the night, you sleep.

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    oh yeah, I forgot to say.

    Unvote: GeneralHankerchief
    Vote: Quintus.JC


    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Quintus.JC: 5 - (ajaxfetish, glyphz, Banquo's Ghost, AggonyDuck, Beskar)

    GeneralHankerchief: 2 - (Dutch_guy, Wishazu)
    Beskar: 2 - (Stephen Asen, Ichigo)


    Rhyfelwyr: 1 - (Yaropolk)
    Seamus Fermanagh: 1 - (Sasaki Kojiro)
    AggonyDuck: 1 - (Yoyoma1910)
    Banquo's Ghost: 1 - (KukriKhan)
    woad&fangs: 1 - (White_eyes:D

    abstain: woad&fangs

    Duel list:

    Sasaki Kojiro - AggonyDuck
    Yoyoma1910 - Yaropolk
    Stephen Asen - Beskar
    White_eyes:D - AggonyDuck
    Last edited by Beskar; 05-02-2009 at 11:44.
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    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=153

    Quintius, if your name is not Hisao but Fujimoto, this will mean your execution was unrightful one and your murderer shall be avenged. If you are indeed Hisao, then this mesans you were a ninja.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quintus.JC View Post
    After Googling my character, I found her on Facebook...

    I am I a she Andres?

    http://www.facebook.com/people/Kumik...moto/680341185

    Ok, definitely not the sort of tough guy I was looking for...

    Maybe I'm supposed to be the dog...
    Unvote: Beskar

    Vote: Quintius JC


    But God help to Banquo's Ghost if Quintius is not Hisao!
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    Reading today's events, my theory is that GH is the Ninja godfather, and BG is one of his students. After GH's duel that carried the possibility of exposing him, and in the face of having the godfather being lynched. The ninja team got to work and decided to risk one of its student to save its master. Notice how before BG's post most of votes went to GH, the mafia decided it would appear way too scummy to make this move when GH has gathered too many votes, so they thought to do it earlier to cast away the suspicion that the reveal was only to save GH. Also notice how GH appeared on BG's Innocent list along with the rest, of course BG would know who is innocent and who is guilty if he was part of the mafia team.

    Unvote: BG
    Vote: GeneralHankerchief


    I ask town to think about this wisely, and not to trust Banquo's reveal to lightly. He might not have been in danger of being lynched, but this reveal has made me severely suspcious of GeneralHankerchief.

    Also I want to hear from CA about what he thinks on the reliability of BG's reveal. I did sent my duel score to CA, and BG delayed in sending his scores I believe.

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    There is an interesting note in BQ's post -
    Gamo Ujisato as possible ninja master, but the Ninja Master is called Kato Danzo.

    Also, CountAarch knows who protected Sasaki, was the protector of Sasaki BQ?
    Last edited by Beskar; 05-02-2009 at 11:51.
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    Default Re: Swords in the Moon

    Quote Originally Posted by Quintus.JC View Post
    Reading today's events, my theory is that GH is the Ninja godfather, and BG is one of his students. After GH's duel that carried the possibility of exposing him, and in the face of having the godfather being lynched. The ninja team got to work and decided to risk one of its student to save its master. Notice how before BG's post most of votes went to GH, the mafia decided it would appear way too scummy to make this move when GH has gathered too many votes, so they thought to do it earlier to cast away the suspicion that the reveal was only to save GH. Also notice how GH appeared on BG's Innocent list along with the rest, of course BG would know who is innocent and who is guilty if he was part of the mafia team.

    Unvote: BG
    Vote: GeneralHankerchief


    I ask town to think about this wisely, and not to trust Banquo's reveal to lightly. He might not have been in danger of being lynched, but this reveal has made me severely suspcious of GeneralHankerchief.

    Also I want to hear from CA about what he thinks on the reliability of BG's reveal. I did sent my duel score to CA, and BG delayed in sending his scores I believe.
    If you are indeed innocent, you shall be avenged, my firend.
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    Default Re: Swords in the Moon

    Actually, I believe BQ is innocent. For some strange reason.
    Last edited by Beskar; 05-02-2009 at 11:54.
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