Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

**woad&fangs** · 05-08-2009, 02:26

Kukri, are you sure we have to lynch a ninja today to win? I really really want to vote Beskar out. My vote is going to stay on Dutch Guy unless someone has a really good argument for someone else. DG has a mere 15 posts in a game with over 2000. I know that there are other quiet players but none of DGs posts seem to be very analytical. I do wish that Kage would appear and add something to the conversation though. His insight would be greatly appreciated at this time.

**Gregoshi** · 05-08-2009, 02:53

Originally Posted by woad&fangs

His insight would be greatly appreciated at this time.

Since it appears that all the pro-townie roles (known) have been killed off, I don't see how the laying-low tactic is valid anymore. All true townies should be activitely participating at this point in the game. We are on the verge of extinction with the only consolation prize being that Uesugi Kenshin will be getting a sword up his keister whilst sitting on his "throne" some years down the road.

Well, that's the opinion of this mafia noobie anyway.

**KukriKhan** · 05-08-2009, 03:40

Originally Posted by woad&fangs

Kukri, are you sure we have to lynch a ninja today to win? I really really want to vote Beskar out. My vote is going to stay on Dutch Guy unless someone has a really good argument for someone else. DG has a mere 15 posts in a game with over 2000. I know that there are other quiet players but none of DGs posts seem to be very analytical. I do wish that Kage would appear and add something to the conversation though. His insight would be greatly appreciated at this time.

Yes, I am certain. Though I certainly understand your annoyance with Baskar-san and his perpetual proclmation of innocence, and degrading opinions of his fellow players.

I quote Gregoshi's recent post:

Originally Posted by Gregoshi

Since it appears that all the pro-townie roles (known) have been killed off, I don't see how the laying-low tactic is valid anymore. All true townies should be activitely participating at this point in the game. We are on the verge of extinction

to cite my wholehearted agreement: we gotta get us a ninja or traitor this day phase, and the next, or roll over and cede victory to the dark forces. So that, if for no other reason, they don't cackle in glee over their victory.

I can't wait for the host's summary and analysis, and the reveal of the "other" board, used by the bad guys - just to see how "off" or "on" we have been.

Kill the lurkers.

Or die.

**Beskar** · 05-08-2009, 03:43

Then there is the whole argument you was a mafia-role, Kukrikhan and misleading us from some one who is in fact active mafia-role and target an innocent quiet person.

It was especially noticeable that the Ninja roles were confirmed to drop by two when Quintus and you got killed off.

Just saying.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 05-08-2009, 03:54

I believe we're beyond the point of killing lurkers. We need to kill bad guys, regardless of how (in)active they may be. Now, my vote is on Rhyfelwyr because I believe him to be a ninja. The fact that he is the last of the pevers don't necessarily jive with me, and I don't quite like how he's pretty much slid by these past couple of days without any suspicion or contribution.

I would also like to hear from Kage as well, as this is usually the point where he steps up and leads his side, whichever it may be, to victory. Alas, I can only vote for one person at a time however, and thus I'm sticking with Rhyfelwyr.

**KukriKhan** · 05-08-2009, 04:14

Originally Posted by Beskar

Then there is the whole argument you was a mafia-role, Kukrikhan and misleading us from some one who is in fact active mafia-role and target an innocent quiet person.

It was especially noticeable that the Ninja roles were confirmed to drop by two when Quintus and you got killed off.

Just saying.

Yes, I can see how the Detective BG's less-than-innocent result on me marked me as a potential bad guy. To this day, I don't know why that result occured. Hopefully, the Host's aftergame writeup will reveal that reason. So, I didn't mind the resulting suspicion and votes.

But, I got killed by bad guys in a night phase, not lynched like Q in a day phase.

And I never voted or challenged you - though in retrospect, maybe I should have. Not that it would have quieted you down; nothing seems to have that particular effect. You have proclaimed your innocence far and wide, repeatedly ad nausium, and I must applaud your level of participation, while also noting your continual disparging of any voter having doubts about your lily-white reputation.

If I were alive, I would challenge you this day.

However, I digress. Kill the lurkers.

**Beskar** · 05-08-2009, 04:19

Well, I let you into a secret. Don't hurt the lily and there won't be any disparging.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 05-08-2009, 04:34

Now that I am dead, I feel wonderfully relaxed.

We don't have ANY useful information with which to pick lynch targets. The only, and very limited, exception in GBG's innocent list. Most of the ones on this list have been prime targets for the various murderers.

We still have two killing factions -- with the ninja numbers unknown.

It is getting too late to kill lurkers to kill lurkers -- GH is correct about that. But you have no reliable information to base your assessments on. Nor do you have time to force the lurkerish ones:

Kage, Dutch, Ichigo, ajax....have lurked and are successful with that strategy. EDIT: well, to be fair Ichi hasn't lurked. I'm used to him doing so pretty much every game, but here he has not. Kage has only two more posts than I, despite me lurking for more than half the game. I also have seven more posts than ajax and Dutch combined! Also, when was the last time you saw Ducky post 74 times! I cannot recall any game where that happened. ah well....

What we should NOT do is vote small.

We have at least two groups of killers and as many as 5 are bad guys. WHOMEVER you pick, ALL votes must settle on that choice so that it cannot be derailed by final switches.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 05-08-2009, 04:52

Unvote: Rhyfelwyr
Vote: Dutch_guy

I think I'm getting paranoid. Upon second thought, Dutch's behavior is reminding me all too well of when he was mafia in Mafia VI. Bare minimum of activity, almost zero suspicion throughout the game... this is pretty scary. And it's making me go slowly crazy. We usually have something to work with here.

**ajaxfetish** · 05-08-2009, 05:44

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Kage, Dutch, Ichigo, ajax....have lurked and are successful with that strategy. EDIT: well, to be fair Ichi hasn't lurked. I'm used to him doing so pretty much every game, but here he has not. Kage has only two more posts than I, despite me lurking for more than half the game. I also have seven more posts than ajax and Dutch combined!

What we should NOT do is vote small.

We have at least two groups of killers and as many as 5 are bad guys. WHOMEVER you pick, ALL votes must settle on that choice so that it cannot be derailed by final switches.

Mainly I just wish I had something to say. I've had virtually no idea who to suspect throughout the game. I'm astonished that I've lived so long, and frustrated that I still haven't a good notion how to contribute to a town victory.

Anyway, in the interests of 'not voting small,' it looks like Dutch Guy has the most votes, and I've no reason to suspect anyone else more than him, so

vote: Dutch Guy

And since I don't really trust his vote record, and I haven't got to use my challenge ability yet,

challenge: Ichigo

Ajax