Sexual predators now allowed to haunt women's bathrooms in NH, MA

[Strike For The South]

1. Calm down
2. Link?

[InsaneApache]

1. Calm down
2. Link?

Aye mate, watch that blood pressure.

[KarlXII]

bows to the Saudi King in a room full of foreign dignitaries, we allow pirates to seize our crews because it's uncivilized to defend yourself... and now this...

Jeez, talk about going off on a completely unrelated tangent. It's always been my understanding that bowing to a King or Queen was simple courtesy and custom.

As to the pirates, well, I've addressed that point in the right thread.

[Meneldil]

Wow Don, I find you to usually be a quite enjoyable poster, even when I strongly disagree with you, but like, wow... These two topics you just opened are kind of disturbing.

1 - Obama has to respect the tradition, whether it is with the Queen of Britain (England?) or with the King of Saudi Arabia. Remember the outrage in UK when Obama's wife touched the Queen? I'm pretty sure the POTUS doesn't want to cause something like that in the arab world.

2 - The pirate thingy. Well, do you like plan to blow up Somalia? These people are pirating because they don't have anything else to do. I'm not saying you should not defend your sailors, as you obviously should, but behaving like the pirates are flesh-eating barbarians isn't going to lead you anywhere.

3 - Are you assimilating transexuals to sexual predators?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

3 - Are you assimilating transexuals to sexual predators?

Did he say that? Please reread the OP before presuming.

[Meneldil]

Item 1: In the 208 year history of our Constitutional republic, no president has ever bowed to anyone. This was actually an issue in the 90s when then President Clinton made a gesture remotely resembling a bow to the Emperor of Japan.

Well, do you agree that the POTUS should respect the protocol? Like, not touching the Queen of England and what not? If you do, then, don't you think he has to bow to the King of Saudi Arabia as well?

Now mind you, I think Saudi Arabia is a shame of a country, and that his king should be kicked in the groin. But you can't really have double standards: bow to the Pope (who is just as much of an idiot) and not bow to the King of S.A.

Item 2: Did I say blow up Somalia? I said do SOMETHING. ANYTHING. I never said anything about blowing up Somalia, I just said our "Vote Present" president is going to have to start earning the title one of these days.

Fair enough. Now I'm not aware of the latest developements, but the situation isn't nearly as one sided as you make it to appear in the other thread. These people are islamic terrorist, they're doing that for a living. You might kill these ones, but other ones will come, as long as piratery is the best way to earn one's life.
And well, as far as I know, most trading ports prohibit armed personal. I kind of think it is not a bad thing, but were free to disagree.

Item 3: No, nor did I remotely say anything of the sort. But can YOU tell the difference between a legitimately transgendered man who feels they belong in the ladies room and a sexual predator that wants to hang out in there?

Okay, I blame either a poorly written title or my broken understanding of English. No, I could probably not make a difference. Hell, I can't tell the difference between a transgendered person and a "normal" one most of the time.
Now I still don't see the issue. Even though I find transsexualism to be weird as hell, it seems kind of a no-brainer to me that transgendered persons should be allowed into the bathroom that fits their sexual orientation.
Sexual predators could enter in women's bathroom before that, and they will continue to do it after that.

A bow to a king IS a show of political submission.

I call double-standard. The King of SA is also in a way a religious leader (Custodian of the Two Mosques is part of his title). Why would Bush's bow to the Pope be alright while Obama's bow to the other dude would not? Is separation of the State and of the Church a characteristic of the US?

Now, whatever, do you think that Obama should not respect the protocol when dealing with any other foreign leader? Should he hug and pat the Queen? Should he high-five the Pope and the King of Saudi Arabia?

If you have no respect for your country, that's your right.

Save me the condescending tone. I loathe monarchy, I loathe Saudi Arabia, just as much as you do. I'm probably one of the most radical republicans of that forum. I can't help but have a good laugh when british tabloids go crazy because someone dared to touch the Queen.

However, international relations are ruled by protocol and tradition. If the tradition is to bow in front of the King of some country, well, the POTUS has two choices:
1 - Bow and be done with it, even if it leaves a bad taste in his mouth
2 - Don't bow and cause outrage, or piss off one of his allies.

[Vuk]

Well, do you agree that the POTUS should respect the protocol? Like, not touching the Queen of England and what not? If you do, then, don't you think he has to bow to the King of Saudi Arabia as well?

Now mind you, I think Saudi Arabia is a shame of a country, and that his king should be kicked in the groin. But you can't really have double standards: bow to the Pope (who is just as much of an idiot) and not bow to the King of S.A.




Fair enough. Now I'm not aware of the latest developements, but the situation isn't nearly as one sided as you make it to appear in the other thread. These people are islamic terrorist, they're doing that for a living. You might kill these ones, but other ones will come, as long as piratery is the best way to earn one's life.
And well, as far as I know, most trading ports prohibit armed personal. I kind of think it is not a bad thing, but were free to disagree.



Okay, I blame either a poorly written title or my broken understanding of English. No, I could probably not make a difference. Hell, I can't tell the difference between a transgendered person and a "normal" one most of the time.
Now I still don't see the issue. Even though I find transsexualism to be weird as hell, it seems kind of a no-brainer to me that transgendered persons should be allowed into the bathroom that fits their sexual orientation.
Sexual predators could enter in women's bathroom before that, and they will continue to do it after that.



I call double-standard. The King of SA is also in a way a religious leader (Custodian of the Two Mosques is part of his title). Why would Bush's bow to the Pope be alright while Obama's bow to the other dude would not? Is separation of the State and of the Church a characteristic of the US?

Now, whatever, do you think that Obama should not respect the protocol when dealing with any other foreign leader? Should he hug and pat the Queen? Should he high-five the Pope and the King of Saudi Arabia?


Save me the condescending tone. I loathe monarchy, I loathe Saudi Arabia, just as much as you do. I'm probably one of the most radical republicans of that forum. I can't help but have a good laugh when british tabloids go crazy because someone dared to touch the Queen.

However, international relations are ruled by protocol and tradition. If the tradition is to bow in front of the King of some country, well, the POTUS has two choices:
1 - Bow and be done with it, even if it leaves a bad taste in his mouth
2 - Don't bow and cause outrage, or piss off one of his allies.

Obama was not meeting the Saudi king personally to pay respect to his religion, he was meeting him in a political function. When Bush met with the Pope, he was not meeting him for important war plans with the Vatican nation, he meeting him as the leader of the Catholic religion. Also, respecting the costumes of the queen by not touching her is not showing submission to her, and Michelle is not leader of the country, Barrack is. Surely you see the difference? A US president does not bow to another country (again, the two exceptions I see possible being Japan and Korea, but still think it is better to not bow at all), and if the country is not willing to honour OUR corner stone belief of freedom, then them. What other leaders of countries bowed before the Saudi king? I am sure he would not be offended because the rest of the world did not submit to him as his subjects did.
If it is a custom of a country to have foriegn powers pay reverence to them, then they have serious imperial ambitions and we should not be dealing with them. Don't play games, you know it would not have been an insult to SA for our president not to bow to its king.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Both the Pope and the Saudi Kings have temporal and spiritual positions. The Vatican has been a state since 1929 remember.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

So the Pope and the Saud walk into a ladies' restroom...

[Don Corleone]

Wow Don, I find you to usually be a quite enjoyable poster, even when I strongly disagree with you, but like, wow... These two topics you just opened are kind of disturbing.

1 - Obama has to respect the tradition, whether it is with the Queen of Britain (England?) or with the King of Saudi Arabia. Remember the outrage in UK when Obama's wife touched the Queen? I'm pretty sure the POTUS doesn't want to cause something like that in the arab world.

2 - The pirate thingy. Well, do you like plan to blow up Somalia? These people are pirating because they don't have anything else to do. I'm not saying you should not defend your sailors, as you obviously should, but behaving like the pirates are flesh-eating barbarians isn't going to lead you anywhere.

3 - Are you assimilating transexuals to sexual predators?

Item 1: In the 208 year history of our Constitutional republic, no president has ever bowed to anyone. This was actually an issue in the 90s when then President Clinton made a gesture remotely resembling a bow to the Emperor of Japan.

Item 2: Did I say blow up Somalia? I said do SOMETHING. ANYTHING. I never said anything about blowing up Somalia, I just said our "Vote Present" president is going to have to start earning the title one of these days.

Item 3: No, nor did I remotely say anything of the sort. But can YOU tell the difference between a legitimately transgendered man who feels they belong in the ladies room and a sexual predator that wants to hang out in there?

[KarlXII]

Item 1: In the 208 year history of our Constitutional republic, no president has ever bowed to anyone. This was actually an issue in the 90s when then President Clinton made a gesture remotely resembling a bow to the Emperor of Japan.

OH NO HE BOWED OUT OF COURTESY BEHEAD THAT TRAITOR MUSLIM COWARD OSAMA BIN OBAMA. He's not submitting America to Saudi rule, he's being courteous. Did you expect him to "terrorist fist bump" the King?

If I ever met a King or Queen in my life, I would bow out of courtesy.

[Don Corleone]

OH NO HE BOWED OUT OF COURTESY BEHEAD THAT TRAITOR MUSLIM COWARD OSAMA BIN OBAMA. He's not submitting America to Saudi rule, he's being courteous. Did you expect him to "terrorist fist bump" the King?

If I ever met a King or Queen in my life, I would bow out of courtesy.

As you should, as you are an individual, and as would I. But neither of us are the sovereign of the United States. Yes, by bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia, President Obama was being publicly submissive. That's where bows come from.

[Strike For The South]

As you should, as you are an individual, and as would I. But neither of us are the sovereign of the United States. Yes, by bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia, President Obama was being publicly submissive. That's where bows come from.

Gaffe?

[KarlXII]

As you should, as you are an individual, and as would I. But neither of us are the sovereign of the United States. Yes, by bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia, President Obama was being publicly submissive. That's where bows come from.

So now Obama is selling the United States to Saudi Arabia, the Saudis will be here to teach us Arabic and hand out free Qurans. That's what I'm getting from such an over reaction by a lot of people to a non-issue.