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**Louis VI the Fat** · 04-09-2009, 16:37

Originally Posted by Vuk

A bow before a pope is RELIGIOUS, and thus is personal.

Bush is not a Catholic. Plus, the pope is a foreign monarch, like the king of Saudi Arabia.

But speaking of personal then, I am already looking forward to your trying to wriggle yourself out of this:

Bush making out with the Saudi king:

**Vuk** · 04-09-2009, 16:44

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Bush is not a Catholic. Plus, the pope is a foreign monarch, like the king of Saudi Arabia.

But speaking of personal then, I am already looking forward to your trying to wriggle yourself out of this:

Bush making out with the Saudi king:

When the president meets the pope, he meets him as a religious leader, not a political leader.
Wiggle my way out of what? A kiss is a greeting, not a show reverence or submission. People greet each other in the street with a kiss in Saudi Arabia, France, etc. They do not bow to each other in the street, as that is not a greeting, it is a show of submission. When two powers meet and seek to treat each other as equals, they greet each other, not bow to each other. They can kiss, shake hands, etc, that is showing respect and is what two equals do. They do not bow though, because a bow shows rank. If Obama bowed to a South Korean or Japanese leader IN THEIR COUNTRY I would not mind so much (though I still would not agree with the reasoning), because customs are different over there, and a bow is a greeting, and a sign of respect - different than in the US, Europe, and the Middle East. Shaking hands is all he needed to do with the Saudi king. (or he could have kissed him if he wanted :P) The US should greet those it has diplomatic ties with, and should show them respect. The US should never bow before them though.