Obama disappoints me...

[Vuk]

Based on that response, I'm guessing you went with (b) the rest of your countrymen are corrupted fools. You could have just said so.

corrupted? No. Rest? As in everyone but me? No. Fools? We all are in our own way.

So you tell me, how does it feel to be one of the modern, enlightened, educated ones who looks down on primitives like me?

EDIT: Rather than getting into a back and forth Lemur, let's be a little more productive about this.
Do you deny that the world is having a love affair with obama? Do you think it is good to throw reason out like that?

[Lemur]

No, no, I'm one of the Select Few, at least according to your reckoning, since I have been blessed with the rare and special insight that President 44 is just a politician. This sets me apart from the "sheeple".

-edit-

Excuse me, I didn't really answer your question. "How does it feel"? Well, I just finished a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, so I can safely say that it feels both nutty and fruity. It's kinda filling, too, but not too filling. I'm going to wash it down with some tea. That will change the feeling.

[Vuk]

No, no, I'm one of the Select Few, at least according to your reckoning, since I have been blessed with the rare and special insight that President 44 is just a politician.

He is just a politician, but he is one that can do no wrong, and if you disagree with him at all, you are a wacky rightwing extremist who is stuck in the darkages and full of hate, right?

[Lemur]

As I said in a different thread, you're just freaking out because you're stuck on campus. We've had this conversation, Vuk.

Here's a legitimate, non-sarcastic question for ya: Is there a moral difference between people for whom President 44 can do no wrong, no matter what he does, and people (like some on this board) for whom President 44 can do no right, no matter what he does?

-edit-

Sorry, I missed your edit above. My bad.

Do you deny that the world is having a love affair with obama? Do you think it is good to throw reason out like that?

Sure, our Prez is a bit of a media star right now, and moreso than the usual God-King treatment that all of our Presidents get. And as with all things, some people are taking it too far. However, this has as much to do with his predecessor as it does with the man himself. If President 43 had not provoked so much fear and loathing, President 44 would not get this treatment. He probably would never have been elected.

The people who believe that Obama is some sort of mixture between Neo from The Matrix and JC from Jesus Christ Superstar will come down to earth. I'm not particularly worried about them. The non-stop conspiracy theories and crazy flakes being dished out by Fox News and the rightwing mediasphere, however, are more troubling. When you're encouraging people to "teabag" one another without realizing that it's a common reference to testicles, well, it shows a bit of a basic disconnect. Actual transcript from one of these "Tea Parties":

Woman: [Shouts] “Burn the books!” [applause]

Man: “I don’t think you were serious about that, were you?”

Woman: “I am too.”

Man: “Burn all the books?!”

Woman: “The ones in college, those, those brainwashing books.”

Man: “[laughs] Brainwashing books?”

Woman: “Yes.”

Man: “Which ones are those?”

Woman: “Like, the evolution crap, and, yeah...”

Video.

"Is it good to throw reason out"? And when will you stop beating your dog? How did you fare in that date-rape trial? Is it good to stick needles under your fingernails? Ask me a non-rhetorical question and I'll give you a serious answer.

[Dutch_guy]

He hasn't even been in office for six months, it's only fair we give him some more time before we judge him. It has been said, no harm in saying it again though.

Carry on

[Marshal Murat]

I watched the video. I laughed. I cried. I cringed.

[Meneldil]

The rhetorical 180 made by the American conservatives is stunning, to say the least.

After 8 years of "give him (Dubya) some time", they go crazy on Obama's back as soon as something happen. Notwithstanding the fact that Dubya basically failed at everything, they kept on supporting him, because you know, with the war on terror and stuff, you can't criticize the head of the country.


Dudes, chill out, "give him some time"

Edit: Holy crap, this video is scary as ****. I'm glad right-wing nutcrackers fascist wanabes left western europe and moved to the US.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do you deny that the world is having a love affair with obama?

Hmmm.... beloved President who is restoring our image throughout the world and getting big ratings overseas and at home....

Or, our previous president, who is largely despised both at home and abroad.

It just seems like, if Obama were truly messing up, Republicans would be upset. If Obama were doing a mediocre job, Republicans would be upset. If Obama is doing a good job, and by most accounts, he is, Republicans are still upset. Is there nothing this man can do which would seem right in your eyes? And why, pray tell, is his popularity either a bad thing, or something evil he concocted?

I am most puzzled by the consistently negative, in spite of any real reasons why, assessment of Obama after only a few months. What's he done that is so bad?


PS- I just want to say I am not trying to bait anyone. I'm actually, genuinely curious to hear what is wrong with him. You have the floor.

[Lemur]

You know who else was popular? HITLER!

[Askthepizzaguy]

You know who else was popular? HITLER!

LOL

See? Jokes can be healing!

[Lemur]

See? Jokes can be healing!

P.S.: Kids, don't buy inferior "imitation" crazy-flakes. Get the real crazy-flakes straight from the source: Fascism is coming!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Cleary when conservative presidents get elected its a well researched decision made by clear thinking, on the other hand when people elect a non conservative president it is through hysteria or some kind of delusion or clever marketing campaign...

Hardly. As I said, I don't think the "Messiah" level of hysteria has been seen since perhaps JFK.

Those damn opposition we had the better ideas but they had the snazzy market campaign or the better soundbytes or more advertising or a better speaker...

They did have the snazzy marketing campaign, better soundbytes, and a better speaker, and the GOP would do well to learn from that. Whose policies were better is simply an opinion.

It happens to lots of opposition parties and they don't attribute it to some messiah perception... some people just don't take losing that well i guess...

The right didn't create the Obamamessiah perception...

I hardly think change and hope portrays someone as a messiah, or maybe my version of what a messiah is is different then others.

It doesn't. The way it is presented does. The way his radical followers present it does.

Trust me, the right created lots of images of Obama to scare people into voting against him. The Democrats painted an image of him as a hopeful visionary, but didn't turn McCain into a hateful, vile, anti-American terrorist.

He wasn't portrayed as an anti-American terrorist - but the Republicans are portrayed by Democrats as bigots, evil white men who don't care about you, etc, etc. Republicans negatively show Democrats in the same way that Democrats negatively show Republicans. Same brush, different paint. Neither party is innocent of creating negative images.

[Lemur]

-Nevermind, I'll spin it off as a new thread.-