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Evil_Maniac From Mars 23:37 12/04/09
Sorry, but if you don't want people to say that he is the Messiah, then do one of two things:

1) Stop making out that he is a hero coming to save us.
2) Criticize him for encouraging things like that on his campaign.

That being said, ATPG's question is a valid one.

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Askthepizzaguy 23:47 12/04/09
My political affiliations, in case you're wondering, are admittedly ambiguous. I'm neither Republican nor Democrat; I liked Bush I and Clinton I. I hated Bush II and Clinton II. I thought Gulf War I was good, I thought the present war (the sequel) sucked big time.

I am economically conservative and socially liberal. I like more liberties and less government involvement, but I also see the merits of government intervention and regulation, to prevent terrible disasters, but not to attempt to "make everything all better".

Right now I can't find a job, and my college savings are all dried up. I'm in a miserable situation, and I could really use the help. But frankly, I'm not dying, and others could use it more.

I consider myself fair-minded and less partial to partisanship than most. That being said, I voted Obama and was appalled by McCain's campaign and Bush and Cheney in general.

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a completely inoffensive name 23:54 12/04/09
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
My political affiliations, in case you're wondering, are admittedly ambiguous. I'm neither Republican nor Democrat

I am economically conservative and socially liberal. I like more liberties and less government involvement, but I also see the merits of government intervention and regulation, to prevent terrible disasters, but not to attempt to "make everything all better".

I consider myself fair-minded and less partial to partisanship than most.
This describes me perfectly as well.

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a completely inoffensive name 23:56 12/04/09
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Sorry, but if you don't want people to say that he is the Messiah, then do one of two things:

1) Stop making out that he is a hero coming to save us.
2) Criticize him for encouraging things like that on his campaign.
Because I have been totally riding on the Obama train. /s

The second one makes me laugh, because the job of a politician is to pretend as if you have all the answers and solutions.

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Evil_Maniac From Mars 23:59 12/04/09
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name:
Because I have been totally riding on the Obama train. /s
The right in question here is not mocking anyone who supports Obama, they are mocking those who give him an air not seen since Trudeaumania or Beatlemania - and rightly so, if I may add.

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The second one makes me laugh, because the job of a politician is to pretend as if you have all the answers and solutions.
Having all the answers (or pretending to) does not make you Obamamessiah. That isn't what I said at all.

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a completely inoffensive name 00:07 13/04/09
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Having all the answers (or pretending to) does not make you Obamamessiah. That isn't what I said at all.
Ummmm....
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Sorry, but if you don't want people to say that he is the Messiah, then do one of two things:

1) Stop making out that he is a hero coming to save us. In other words stop pretending he has all the answers and solutions we need.
2) Criticize him for encouraging things like that on his campaign. In other words, call him out on not having all the answers and solutions America needs.
Thats what being a hero politician is. Coming in with all the answers and solutions and fixing America up single handily.

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Evil_Maniac From Mars 00:12 13/04/09
Since my point isn't getting through, I'll try a new tactic. Answer me this question - do the Obama worshippers recognize that he is imperfect?

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Askthepizzaguy 00:13 13/04/09
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Since my point isn't getting through, I'll try a new tactic. Answer me this question - do the Obama worshippers recognize that he is imperfect?
BLASPHEMER!!! KILL THE HERETIC!!! DEATH TO THE REPUBLICANS!!!




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a completely inoffensive name 00:28 13/04/09
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Since my point isn't getting through, I'll try a new tactic. Answer me this question - do the Obama worshippers recognize that he is imperfect?
Anyone 25 and above, yeah probably. The only ones who truly believe he can do no wrong, is the young people who are are just getting involved in politics and are mostly likely getting swept up in a movement due to inexperience not because Obama portrays himself as a god.

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Evil_Maniac From Mars 00:41 13/04/09
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name:
Anyone 25 and above, yeah probably. The only ones who truly believe he can do no wrong, is the young people who are are just getting involved in politics and are mostly likely getting swept up in a movement due to inexperience not because
Agreed so far, except that there are quite a few people over 25 who are taken in by it.

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Obama portrays himself as a god.
Not literally, of course, but he was certainly effective in creating - or at least encouraging - the image he received as the Obamamessiah. The right mocks because some of the left created this image, and we find it amusing.

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