Obama disappoints me...

**a completely inoffensive name** · 04-13-2009, 00:28

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

Since my point isn't getting through, I'll try a new tactic. Answer me this question - do the Obama worshippers recognize that he is imperfect?

Anyone 25 and above, yeah probably. The only ones who truly believe he can do no wrong, is the young people who are are just getting involved in politics and are mostly likely getting swept up in a movement due to inexperience not because Obama portrays himself as a god.

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 04-13-2009, 00:41

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

Anyone 25 and above, yeah probably. The only ones who truly believe he can do no wrong, is the young people who are are just getting involved in politics and are mostly likely getting swept up in a movement due to inexperience not because

Agreed so far, except that there are quite a few people over 25 who are taken in by it.

Obama portrays himself as a god.

Not literally, of course, but he was certainly effective in creating - or at least encouraging - the image he received as the Obamamessiah. The right mocks because some of the left created this image, and we find it amusing.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-13-2009, 00:50

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

Not literally, of course, but he was certainly effective in creating - or at least encouraging - the image he received as the Obamamessiah. The right mocks because some of the left created this image, and we find it amusing.

To be fair, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Michael Savage are beyond making me laugh. Their bloviating hyperpartisan hysterics are shameful beyond belief, just like the nonsense you'd hear on anarchist blogs or militant communist websites. It's sickening some of the stuff that comes from the "good Christian family-oriented" fighters for the so-called right wing. This "us or them" mentality is damaging to our country and our sanity.

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 04-13-2009, 00:52

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

To be fair, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Michael Savage are beyond making me laugh.

Don't worry, I don't think most of the right likes them either. Alright, Hannity can be OK sometimes, and I've never heard of Savage, but O'Reilly and Limbaugh...

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-13-2009, 00:57

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

Don't worry, I don't think most of the right likes them either. Alright, Hannity can be OK sometimes, and I've never heard of Savage, but O'Reilly and Limbaugh...

To be clear, I do not equate the right and the Republicans with those hacks.

Hannity... oh dear. I really have to send you some clips of his more unforgivable stuff. He's like Keith Olbermann.... sometimes Olbermann makes me laugh, but in every show, he says something inexcusably blind and partisan.

I wash my hands of him.

Michael Savage? Oh my god. This guy is a dangerous hateful lunatic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael...e_(commentator)

His page: (I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT)
http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/

O'Reilly and Limbaugh should be kept in a cardboard box for their protection, and ours.

now, feel free to name the lefty liberal loons. I'll probably agree.

**a completely inoffensive name** · 04-13-2009, 00:56

Agreed so far, except that there are quite a few people over 25 who are taken in by it.
Maybe, those just might be hardcore Democrats.

Not literally, of course, but he was certainly effective in creating - or at least encouraging - the image he received as the Obamamessiah. The right mocks because some of the left created this image, and we find it amusing.
This image though, if you look at it deeper, was not created and endorsed by Obama and his group. Essentially, what you had was a massive resentment toward the Republicans for quite a while (since late 2003, after the Iraq invasion), but none of the candidates the Democrats had were strong or charismatic enough to win. Now suddenly, in the 2008 Democratic primaries, you had two strong candidates, Hillary and Obama and the tough battle between the two of them created the situation where both looked ready to pounce on the weakened Republicans with renewed momentum after the primary. So after the primary what you had was not an image of a Messiah, you just had a complete reversal of what had been hapening for the past 8 years. Now the Republicans were the weak ones, and the Democrats were the strong ones. This caused the public to flock away from the Republicans in large numbers. Not realizing what was going on, the right has been attempting to write this off as Obama trying to seem as a messiah when in actually, it was a mass rejection of Republican ideals not smoke and shadow from the Democrats. All Obama had to do (and did) was say I am completely different from George Bush and McCain is exactly like him, and boom he wins the election. No tricks, no messiah, just a simple change in momentum combined with public resentment, along with a few catchphrases that tempted many apathetic young voters to come out.

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 04-13-2009, 01:13

Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

along with a few catchphrases that tempted many apathetic young voters to come out. [/B]

With that one line, you showed my point. Why did they come out? Answer: Messiah. The right didn't create the image of Obama as a Messiah.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 04-13-2009, 01:16

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

With that one line, you showed my point. Why did they come out? Answer: Messiah. The right didn't create the image of Obama as a Messiah.

Family. Taxes. Limited Government. Security. Socialism. Communism. Terrorism. Un-Americanism.

America will fall to dust if Obama gets elected. He's an evil socialist communist anarchist terrorist who is not really American and hates this country and worships the Koran.

Trust me, the right created lots of images of Obama to scare people into voting against him. The Democrats painted an image of him as a hopeful visionary, but didn't turn McCain into a hateful, vile, anti-American terrorist.

I'm afraid you will never convince me that the Democrats are worse than the Republicans in this regard. They clearly aren't.

**a completely inoffensive name** · 04-13-2009, 01:25

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

With that one line, you showed my point. Why did they come out? Answer: Messiah. The right didn't create the image of Obama as a Messiah.

I hardly think change and hope portrays someone as a messiah, or maybe my version of what a messiah is is different then others.

**Lemur** · 04-13-2009, 01:30

Yes, the Dems are the only political party to have a problem with people on the fringes thinking that their man is sent by God. This is a failing exclusive to them. Oh, wait ...