how to use advance and fire?

[MikeV]

thats a nice title.

Are you a lone "mod god," or part of a mod god squad? (Sorry, couldn't resist. )

I started modding properly today. I spent about 4-5 hours throughout the entire day on it, most of that just finding out what everything did.

Are the tables in the wiki proving to be helpful?

[pevergreen]

Are you a lone "mod god," or part of a mod god squad? (Sorry, couldn't resist. )


Are the tables in the wiki proving to be helpful?

I'm not actually using them!

I might be able to add to them, but im about to be without internet for a week.

[MikeV]

I might be able to add to them, but im about to be without internet for a week.

We'll look for some updates next week, then.

How are your LUA skills?

[Smellycat]

I find that charging my line infantry with bayonets bared followed by a quick cavalry charge to rear results in far less casualties than standing in nice neat lines and pew pewing away This chap would agree

[Tsavong]

Didn't Russian Genrell Alexander Suvorov advocate bayonet tactics in battle during this period?

[MikeV]

Didn't Russian Genrell Alexander Suvorov advocate bayonet tactics in battle during this period?

Use of the bayonet charge (by the infantry, lance or saber for cavalry) was a means to an end: the push through the enemy, as a key to breaking the latter's morale and willingness to continue the fight.

He advocated, taught, trained, and led by example the same kind of initiative and aggressiveness that the British, German, (and later) American armies also encouraged and developed. Here's a good analysis: http://www.clausewitz.org/suvorov.html.

63-0 is an impressive record. The casualty stats, for that era, even more so.

[Didz]

Didn't Russian Genrell Alexander Suvorov advocate bayonet tactics in battle during this period?

As I said those who were never required to actually put theory into practice were very keen on it. The issue however, is whether it ever happened and actual evidence of troops crossing bayonets is pretty sparse, and become harder and harder to find as firearms become more numerous and reliable.

The confusion is increased like the myth of the 'cavalry charge', by writers and artists using romantic imagery to enhance mundane actions. Thus we read of French columns being driven off 'at point of bayonet' when in fact they were destroyed by close range musketry and already falling back in disarray when the regiment were ordered to 'fix bayonets and advance'.

The mentality of the common soldier to the use of the bayonet is easier to understand in books like Mark Urban's history of the rifle regiment where soldiers frequently mention the importance of always having a loaded rifle ready to fire and never discharging your piece until your buddy was reloaded.

The existence of a loaded musket or rifle ready to fire, effectively rendered any advance into close combat suicidal and provided it was managed properly prevented sword, lance or bayonet being used. Being caught without any loaded weapons was likely to result in immediate panic and a rapid advance to the rear if threatened with close quarter action of any kind.

Hence the comment 'men who could barely be persuaded to stand their ground and return fire, suddenly cannot be restrained from advancing with the bayonet as soon as they get sight of an enemy backpack before them.'

[Tsavong]

As I said those who were never required to actually put theory into practice were very keen on it.

Alexander Suvorov had 63 victories and no losses he must have known alot about how to make war in this period, which is more than I do... ie nun at all.

[pevergreen]

We'll look for some updates next week, then.

How are your LUA skills?

non existant?