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    One of my generals got the ancillary carthaginian turncoat after a battle against Saba. Somewhat surprised, I started looking for a bug; only to find out Saba has the carthaginian culture.

    I don't know much about the Saba, but wouldn't the eastern culture fit them better? Or were they that different from the other eastern factions?

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    From Wikipedia:

    Semitic languages are attested in written form from a very early date, with texts in Eblaite and Akkadian appearing from around the middle of the third millennium BC, written in a script adapted from Sumerian cuneiform. The other scripts used to write Semitic languages are alphabetic. Among them are the Ugaritic, Phoenician, Aramaic, Hebrew, Syriac, Arabic, South Arabian, and Ge'ez alphabets.
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    Yes, the Sabeans were semitic, the same ethnic group as the Israelites and the Phoenicians that inhabited the eastern Mediterranean seaboard. Carthage was a Phoenician colony.

    Edit: come to think of it, the ancillary should be renamed a Semitic turncoat. Then again, although the Carthaginians and the Sabaeans were ethnically related, I doubt they had much in common when it came to politics and military, so a Carthaginian turncoat would not be much use against the Sabeans and vica versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    Yes, the Sabeans were semitic[snip]
    Didn't know that, thanks.

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    Many Carthaginian things were used for Saba as placeholders. Saba progess was slower than the other factions, so there are still many thing unfinished in Saba for EB1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    Yes, the Sabeans were semitic, the same ethnic group as the Israelites and the Phoenicians that inhabited the eastern Mediterranean seaboard. Carthage was a Phoenician colony.

    Edit: come to think of it, the ancillary should be renamed a Semitic turncoat. Then again, although the Carthaginians and the Sabaeans were ethnically related, I doubt they had much in common when it came to politics and military, so a Carthaginian turncoat would not be much use against the Sabeans and vica versa.
    Jews and Arabs are both Semitic peoples...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macilrille View Post
    Jews and Arabs are both Semitic peoples...
    It is hard to believe how the same originated people killing each other now



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    y not? the chinese called each other barbarians for thousands of years....they still do today...




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    Quote Originally Posted by satalexton View Post
    y not? the chinese called each other barbarians for thousands of years....they still do today...
    Quisque est barbarus alio!

    I've gotten a couple of Carthaginian turncoats but not any other turncoat. Maybe a Roman once, but that was all.

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    In Denmark we say "Frænde er frænde værst" = "Kin is worst on kin"...

    Civil wars (and those involving members of variants of same religion *over* religion, like Jew/Christian vs Moslem Catholic vs Protestant, etc...) are always nasty.

    Yea flame ahead fact is, historically Christianity and Islam evolved of Judaism.
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