Questions about KH

[Jebivjetar]

Oh, yes, i have one nice screenshot already:

[Aemilius Paulus]

Hehe, I just did the same in 268 BC of my newly-started Eperios campaign. Romani besegied my Capua with a fullstack of mainly Principes (6)with substantial amounts of Triarii (4) and some Hastati (2), Rorarii (3), Accensi (2), Roman Citizen Cavalry (2) and a General's Bodyguard.

I had three 40-men Illyrian cavalry, two 27-men Bodyguards, 80-man unit of Levy Phalangites, 2 100-men units of Illyrian Levies (the crappy spear ones), plus four 50-man Hoplitai Haploi. Basically a depleted Eperiote army with a bunch of cavalry. I still won, with pretty low casualties of 40 men, mostly from the pila that the Romans unleashed on me in the beginning.

Seriously, Roman are ridiculously easy to defeat. Those three units are now down to 26-31 men each with silver chevrons. Every battle of mine is a quick enemy charge at my extremely thin (two rows) ragged line of levies followed by my own generals and Illyrians charging at the backs of the engaged enemy infantry, routing all of them at once, routing full units from the first charge.

So anyway, I defeated the Romani Capuan expedition and suddenly I found an empty Roma. No units inside. Only a single unit of Principes blocking the road to the "Eternal" City. I quickly dispatched the units with my two general's bodyguards and entered Roma, unopposed. After which I promptly massacred the population It felt wrong, I still have guilt on my shoulders, but I needed the money to get me out of debt. Not to mention Capua, whom I forgot to massacre, has 11.000 population and the people are not happy, at 70% happiness on low tax level.

[Jebivjetar]

Would be nice if you could post a screenshot from your campaign map. Sounds pretty interesting.

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam

Here you are. Its the only screenshot i have from this campaign and its taken around 230bc. Anyway, now (its about 210), Parthians are much stronger, and Romans live somewhere in Austria and Switzerland, and are something like "romanobarbarians"

[Jebivjetar]

So anyway, I defeated the Romani Capuan expedition and suddenly I found an empty Roma. No units inside. Only a single unit of Principes blocking the road to the "Eternal" City. I quickly dispatched the units with my two general's bodyguards and entered Roma, unopposed. After which I promptly massacred the population It felt wrong, I still have guilt on my shoulders, but I needed the money to get me out of debt.

Its ok. Any reason is good enough to do such a thing to the romans

[Satyros]

Your starting Spartan generals have the spartan bodyguard. All other generals, including Spartans (born or adopted) will have the other bodyguard.

( Awwwww ..... )

But mooooooooooooom I want my Spartan Generals to have Spartan Bodyguards for $11.99 .

Respect my authoritah !

S**** you guys I'll play Epeiros .

Satyros

[Aemilius Paulus]

Its ok. Any reason is good enough to do such a thing to the romans

Yeah, but you know, the city gave up without a fight since it was utterly devoid of a garrison. What is more barbaric then slaughtering a defenceless city which honourably and promptly surrendered to you, especially if you are a Hellene and claim to be above such barbaroi as the Celtoi, Germanic tribes, and Romaioi?

I just had to keep the public order (Capua is a mess right now) and I had to have money to pull me out of the red. Which is why I massacred them anyway.

[Maion Maroneios]

Yeah, but you know, the city gave up without a fight since it was utterly devoid of a garrison. What is more barbaric then slaughtering a defenceless city which honourably and promptly surrendered to you, especially if you are a Hellene and claim to be above such barbaroi as the Celtoi, Germanic tribes, and Romaioi?

Aimilios is right there. That is why Demetrios, even after killing so many Romaioi by the sword, decided against massacreing Rome. He instead enslaved half the male population, double as many women and children and is planning to expell even more (especially the nobles). But hey, he didn't mercilessly kill them! Even offered them to turn to the Hellenic side, which the majority of Plebeioi did BTW. They weren't happy with the so-called "Republic" anyway. At least Demetrios gives them something.

Maion

[Celtic_Punk]

there's no turning to the celtic side. If yer an enemy... You die! you go to hell and you die! haha!

[Maion Maroneios]

I'd rather die than become a Keltos, believe me. Hell to your so-called "hygiene" by using primitive forms of soap, which is nothing more than a blob of fat and salts anyway. Plus, I'd never bathe in ice-cold rivers or sleep with my fellow soldiers. Oh no, I'd rather die a Hellen than go to your side.

Maion

[Watchman]

...or sleep with my fellow soldiers. Oh no, I'd rather die a Hellen than go to your side.

Yeah, little boys is where it's at.

Everybody knows that everything coming out of ancient Greece promotes homosexuality and pederasty, after all.

[ARCHIPPOS]

actually the whole "homosexuality-amongst-Greek-soldiers" angle is being waaaaaay overplayed...
sure there must have been some such symptoms especialy amongst Spartans, or the Thebean sacred band who lived confined in their prison-like-camps for years and years... but most other hoplites took regular leaves and experienced extensive periods of peaceful citizen-life cultivating their lands and the presence of plenty womanfolk around (no need to get physical with males ) ...
the whole "mature protector-young protege" thing is widely misunderstood... those societies were highly antagonistic,competitive and violent so young guys seeked the guidance and protection of mature men to better cope with the everyday challenges of politics and war ... this reationship was not of "sexual" nature but rather a means to train and teach and ensure societal emancipation... power and not sex was the underlying principle of these practices ... eastern societies still give great importance to similar ideas of "Godfather" and so is "Mentorship" in academia...

[Watchman]

Sir, I do believe your sarcasm detector is in need of new batteries.

[ARCHIPPOS]

well no i actualy realised you were joking...i just felt the need to mention sth abt it bc some people may get the wrong idea i 'm itching to write sth -besides we're all history geeks here,no???

[Mikhail Mengsk]

sth abt it bc

O.o?!?

[Zarax]

Something about it because... jeez, way too compressed

[Watchman]

Clearly an example of Doing It Wrong.

[Satyros]

I don't know , even though I am mostly commited to KH and Epeiros , I must say that I have a fondness for the celtic factions . It's much more rewarding to beat the crap out of the romans as any of the celtic factions , e.g. the real objective being not letting them cross the Alps when playing as the Aedui . I am currently considering ( playing as the Casse ) to send an expedition force to the Roman peninsula by sea , or even better to march through allied Gallic lands to support our brothers in the struggle against the Romaioi . I say kill them young and leave no relatives alive to seek revenge .

When I play as KH and Epeiros however I tend to rely on Thracian shock troops and reward ( roleplaying ) them with long years of allied city governments and local autonomy in many cases , I only install client rulers only when in dire financial need ( btw good job EB team on the new client ruler system ). Too bad that "local autonomy" doesn't give some loyalty bonuses too .

So I couldn't really choose a side between the unwashed degenerates and the washed ones .

Of course you can always go to the steppes where people really like their animals . I mean really .

Satyros