Appreciating Grenadiers

**Konig Prasatko** · 04-17-2009, 01:26

Playing as the Ottomans last night I finally got the hang of using Grenadiers.

It gave me great joy to see the well placed grandes decimate a company of line infantry.

Back these up with the Turkish hand mortar and finally the Ottomans have some teeth!

**nafod** · 04-17-2009, 04:39

Originally Posted by Konig Prasatko

Playing as the Ottomans last night I finally got the hang of using Grenadiers.

It gave me great joy to see the well placed grandes decimate a company of line infantry.

Back these up with the Turkish hand mortar and finally the Ottomans have some teeth!

I've found them to be excellent to dislodge an enemy from behind stone walls. Usually causes an insta-route.

**Miracle** · 04-17-2009, 06:47

They can also be placed behind a wooden fort wall during a defensive siege battle. Their grenades have just enough range to shatter enemy units throwing up grappling hooks. After they run out of grenades they are useful for counter-melee.

**Konig Prasatko** · 04-17-2009, 08:16

Originally Posted by Miracle

They can also be placed behind a wooden fort wall during a defensive siege battle. Their grenades have just enough range to shatter enemy units throwing up grappling hooks. After they run out of grenades they are useful for counter-melee.

Good tip as I have found my cannon and muskets are almost usless in a fort!

**anweRU** · 04-17-2009, 13:15

If you auto-calc most of the time, grenadiers give you a great boost. It seems the auto-calc routines value a grenadier unit at 1.5x or 2x line inf. Forces me to fight a battle manually when someone attacks me with stacks that have a lot of grenadiers (Sweden must die!).

**Dead Guy** · 04-17-2009, 14:24

Is the most effective use of grenadiers to run up and throw grenades once the lines have started exchaning fire?

I tried to hide my grenadiers on the flanks and throw grenades as the enemy advanced the last distance but all the grenades explode harmlessly behind the enemy. Should wait until the enemy is stationary, yeah?

**jsberry** · 04-17-2009, 15:40

Originally Posted by anweRU

If you auto-calc most of the time, grenadiers give you a great boost. It seems the auto-calc routines value a grenadier unit at 1.5x or 2x line inf. Forces me to fight a battle manually when someone attacks me with stacks that have a lot of grenadiers (Sweden must die!).

Is that 1.5x or 2x per unit or per man? Because grenadier units are .5x the size of line units...