UK police, murderers?

[tibilicus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8004222.stm

Well after these developments the question needs to be raised urgently about the standard of the UK police force. What makes this dastardly tale of affairs even worse is that it appears our darling home secretary Jacqiue Smith might even be conspiring with the met to cover their foul ways and the fact one of there police officers is ultimately responsible for an innocent mans death. The question needs to be raised as to what the hell these officers are doing, causing the death of those they're supposed to be protecting?

It also highlights the even bigger fact that Labour now simply need to go. This week alone has yet again underlined the embarrassment that is the Brown cabinet. The Brown cabinet? Quite fitting don't you think?

[Incongruous]

Well, the riots were disgrace in any case, it was avery bad place to have them reall wasn't it? It is more than the police whom have to take responsability for that.

However in this case, it is an evident lack of professionalism which lead to that man's death and the officer involoved should be jailed. Overall it probabaly shows a tendency for thugishness rather than murderousness in the British police force and we should not paint them all with the same blood red brush. It would, however be a good start fot the govt. if it really considered the right of people to elect their local police chief.

[rory_20_uk]

What amazes me is how a pathologist can do an autopsy and decide on heart attack, when another can stumble across free blood in the abdomen. As a medical student I'd've noticed free blood...

The UK isn't a democracy. It's a police state with window dressing.

[Fragony]

Just read yesterday that a second opinion is very often completely different from the first. I dunno about this one, being in the wrong place at the wrong time if you ask me, tragic but nothing more.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

What amazes me is how a pathologist can do an autopsy and decide on heart attack, when another can stumble across free blood in the abdomen. As a medical student I'd've noticed free blood...

The UK isn't a democracy. It's a police state with window dressing.

Doesn't this mean the pathologist will get to stand before a review board and answer as to whether she's a) been negligent or b) was participating in some level of cover-up?

I thought the UK was a limited monarchy? Aside from Magna Carta, IS there a delineation of individual rights for your citizens? (1st question is sarcastic, the 2nd is an actual question).

[InsaneApache]

Doesn't this mean the pathologist will get to stand before a review board and answer as to whether she's a) been negligent or b) was participating in some level of cover-up?

I thought the UK was a limited monarchy? Aside from Magna Carta, IS there a delineation of individual rights for your citizens? (1st question is sarcastic, the 2nd is an actual question).

So many things have happened these last 12 years. Laws that prohibit demonstrations near parliament. Laws allowing the government to store and read your e-mails and texts that came in force a week or so ago. Laws allowing over 500+ organisations to enter your house without a warrant. (It used to be only two, HM Customs and Excise and the Fire Brigade, for obvious reasons) Laws that allow local authorities to spy on you, your kith and kin. Laws that allow 28 days detention without charge. Powers to stop and search a person, giving no reason. Laws that prohibit the taking of photographs of the police. Laws made by decree. (called statutory implements) Laws passed to facilitate ID cards, which they say will not be compulsory. Fat chance. I could go on but it's late and I'm tired.

rorys right, we are fast becoming a police state.

[Pannonian]

So many things have happened these last 12 years. Laws that prohibit demonstrations near parliament. Laws allowing the government to store and read your e-mails and texts that came in force a week or so ago. Laws allowing over 500+ organisations to enter your house without a warrant. (It used to be only two, HM Customs and Excise and the Fire Brigade, for obvious reasons) Laws that allow local authorities to spy on you, your kith and kin. Laws that allow 28 days detention without charge. Powers to stop and search a person, giving no reason. Laws that prohibit the taking of photographs of the police. Laws made by decree. (called statutory implements) Laws passed to facilitate ID cards, which they say will not be compulsory. Fat chance. I could go on but it's late and I'm tired.

rorys right, we are fast becoming a police state.

Simple solution: elect a Lib Dem government. They're the only semi-popular party to stand for civil liberties. Neither a Labour nor Tory government will significantly roll back the police powers, so electing either won't do anything to address the police state.

[Furunculus]

So many things have happened these last 12 years. Laws that prohibit demonstrations near parliament. Laws allowing the government to store and read your e-mails and texts that came in force a week or so ago. Laws allowing over 500+ organisations to enter your house without a warrant. (It used to be only two, HM Customs and Excise and the Fire Brigade, for obvious reasons) Laws that allow local authorities to spy on you, your kith and kin. Laws that allow 28 days detention without charge. Powers to stop and search a person, giving no reason. Laws that prohibit the taking of photographs of the police. Laws made by decree. (called statutory implements) Laws passed to facilitate ID cards, which they say will not be compulsory. Fat chance. I could go on but it's late and I'm tired.

rorys right, we are fast becoming a police state.

i'm with you there.

almost all the people at that demo were wasters and or .

but the box ticking fascocrats otherwise known as her majesties constabulary should have had the sense and iniative to let that poor useless drunk through the line rather than repeatedly beat him until he had a heart attack.

I have much less sympathy the shouting and abusive woman who got night-sticked, she at least was a cretin rather than just a drunk in the wrong place at the wrong time.