Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
I seem to recall someone once saying something about an argument being built upon sand; and the other one said that sand is better than nothing at all... In this case, your argument is once again built upon no evidence, and no reasoning that I can see. A vast amount of evidence, research, and reasoning has gone into the question of blaming genes for our behavior. But the fact is while genes may help form the brain, so does the environment, and unless the brain is absolutely dead, people have control over their actions, and can freely choose.
Genes + experience = behaviour in any given situation. That's how most scientists see it nowadays isn't it? My argument isn't based on sand, I'm pretty sure you accept that our genes and our experiences influence our behaviour as well. The difference is you think there is something that allows us to choose how we act, as if every single electric signal that flickers through our brain was not an inevitable result of the previous one, and the pattern they form determines what we do. I see no reason to believe that some supernatural force gives us free will by overruling the biological machine that is our brain.

Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
Even a certain God people believe in allows for free will. So does science. You're curiously arguing against it, even though you yourself have said that faith is a choice.
Actually, I don't, I've argued many a time with Philipvs Vallidervs Caligvla on this issue.

Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
Your argument is undermined by your own argument, and as such, there is no better rebuttal than your own words. If you'll excuse me, I'd like to take a break from this one for a little while, because (a) we won't make any progress (b) I think you've effectively defeated yourself and (c) I do find the defense of racists to be a little upsetting, and as such, I take my leave and will ponder things quietly without saying things that might offend people.

I think you just took what you thought to be one of my arguments from another thread, misunderstood it, then lumped it into this one and said I'm contradicting myself.