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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    all very clever until you realise that you will be submitting to a government composed in part of people who believe that honour killings are normal practice, and suti, and female genital mutilation, and wearing wooden shoes, and ......................................

    and then you realise that western democracy has worked precisely because it inculcated a shared family with shared values, which is why you, the individual, submit to be governed by others in your name.

    oh wait, never mind.
    I don't really know what you have against the dutch but who said we're going to vote muslim extremists in? Do you really think they have that much of a fanbase across the world?


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    It doesn't have to be exactly like one big country straight away... half the reason people believe in backward things like wooden shoes is because thier economy's haven't developed yet

    I would like a world goverment but not a forced one, it would have to be up to each county to decide.. but lets assume thats happened all over..

    Firstly I would try to harmonise the world into zones, say like EU, SAU ect.

    Then concentrate on economic development in poorer regions

    Then over time the zones can join up as they get to similar levels of development until its one functional goverment...

    lots of money saved on expensive army's, that money can go on research, and obviously the world research and space program budgets are now on big budget, rather than researching things another country already knows all knowledge is pool and learning shared...

    oh wait, never mind.

    Thats lucky because i had this long list of things... like tax havens, various forms of international crime...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
    It doesn't have to be exactly like one big country straight away... half the reason people believe in backward things like wooden shoes is because thier economy's haven't developed yet
    The dutch economy has not developed yet? You learn something new everyday...


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    The EU is fast turning into a lame duck, all it took was economic strife to show it up for what it is, too fat too fast.

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    I think you're all looking in the wrong direction for progress. We should all be looking at ramping DOWN the level of engagement... personally, I'm already back to the locally regional level (Go Sox! Go Sox!), trying to get back to the tribal level. This summer, I'm forming up my own local Fian, comprised of American born, grandsons of Erin. Within the next five years, I hope to have reprogressed to the clannish level. Anybody want to get adopted?

    All kidding aside, it's this mentality of looking for a line to draw in the first place that causes all the troubles. I'm not even sure I'm against illegal immigration anymore.
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    I need to clarify my original post. I believe that the nation is the largest level that there should be - but that there needs to be a fair amount of regionalism involved. There needs to be a balance of power between the states and the central government, but my first loyalty is always to Germany and not to Bavaria or Brandenburg. As such, I voted for nationalism.
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    I reject all these choices, my only affiliation is humanity itself.

    Independence is my happiness, and I view things as they are, without regard to place or person; my country is the world, and my religion is to do good.
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    Nationalism with a close cooperation with the octoquid powers other nations of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I don't really know what you have against the dutch but who said we're going to vote muslim extremists in? Do you really think they have that much of a fanbase across the world?
    muslim extremists........?

    suti is/was an indian practice of burning the wife alive on the pyre of her dead husband.

    FGM is i believe an arab/african cultural practice that just happens to coexist with islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    I think you're all looking in the wrong direction for progress. We should all be looking at ramping DOWN the level of engagement... personally, I'm already back to the locally regional level (Go Sox! Go Sox!), trying to get back to the tribal level. This summer, I'm forming up my own local Fian, comprised of American born, grandsons of Erin. Within the next five years, I hope to have reprogressed to the clannish level. Anybody want to get adopted?

    All kidding aside, it's this mentality of looking for a line to draw in the first place that causes all the troubles. I'm not even sure I'm against illegal immigration anymore.
    don is quite right.

    i voted nation state, but i hold the same views as EMFM, localism within the sovereign nation state is what is needed.
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    To me Global is just another definition of expensive, and inefficient. The Bigger the Government the more expensive and inefficient its going to be. I'll go with Regionalism.

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    The dutch economy has not developed yet? You learn something new everyday...

    Frunculus was being sarcastic putting it in his list... i was being sarcastric choosing it as an example because it was the only silly one in his list...

    Now i just can't tell if you didn't get my and frunculus sarcasm or if i didn't get your sarcasm...
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    I own a pair by the way, on soggy ground accept no less.

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    Global national regionalism , you know its a winner .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    don is quite right.

    i voted nation state, but i hold the same views as EMFM, localism within the sovereign nation state is what is needed.
    Indeed, more influence needs to be given to local elected bodies of government, but to make sure they do not turn out in the UK just like the Commons, they should have more accountability and heavy punishements for misconduct. Too many absurd councils of the type we have now with increased powers and the property developers will have Britain built up into one massive IKEA within a few decades.

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    b and c. European Union with great political autonomies for its member states. Expel the UK.
    BLARGH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    b and c. European Union with great political autonomies for its member states. Expel the UK.


    Ace.

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    Dont worry earthlings Oqtosquid overlords will love you in any form, state or not. Boiled or deep fried,smoked or roasted. It really does not matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    b and c. European Union with great political autonomies for its member states. Expel the UK.
    you have my vote.
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