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    Default Consolidated bug list

    I've made a complete list from bugs reported so far mainly compiled from this thread https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=113774 I plan on keeping this updated at least a couple of times weekly for a while so feel free to post a bug shine more light on a specific bug or debate whether it's a bug
    BUGS


    Reinforcements

    Land

    rivers/reinforcements apparently reinforcements can show up on the other side of a river and be
    unreachable. more details here
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...7postcount=141

    Both AI and and human reinforcements can spawn at the exact same entry point causing a forced
    melee and a jumbled mess
    Also if they spawn at the same point they possibly don't enter at all

    1 man getting stuck off the battlemap making the rest of the unit unattackable and can last until
    the timer runs out, you however can kill them by running me through the unit but that remaining
    1 man will lose you the battle

    Naval reinforcements

    Can't withdraw trade(indiaman) ships that come on as reinforcements they sit at the redline and you cannot
    cancel thier withdraw order making them stuck there the rest of the battle, other class of ships seem to have the
    ability to withdraw when they are reinforcements

    Can't properly group units when you come into the battle as reenforcements may happen with land battles to but
    have yet to experience this

    Reinforcements spawn randomly at an entry point rather than the true direction they should be
    coming from

    Attacking a fleet with reinforcements, all reinforcements that get sunk/captured in battle return
    on the campaign map and retreat away

    Forts

    at least according to fort descriptions, the higher level fort wall defenses should be more dangerous (for
    attackers). In the game, this is not the case, if the player gets to control the walls in star forts (and gun forts).
    Wall cannons are fired only once the enemy is at very close range. However, if the AI controls the walls, cannons
    are fired at the normal cannon range. This does not seem to work as intended. Also, player units placed on higher
    end fort walls do not seem to be able to hit anything with musket fire.

    Fort swap When the AI attacks out of a fort the defender gets to be in the fort
    Happens the other way around too when a relief army shows up to attack the besiegers the AI
    gets the fort

    I find cavalry units regularly get stuck in fort doors when you order them out or in. This means the attacker has
    an open door to walk through. In previous TW games you could usually workaround by reordering the unit and/or
    making them run; in ETW they seem to get stuck for good.

    Defending units on walls will abseil down ropes to pursue attackers. Worse, they will sometimes choose to use
    ropes and move around the outside when ordered to another part of the fort.

    Battles

    When using minimal user interface the hotkeys to increase/decrease rank file/sail do not work even though they
    work with the normal interface

    River battle, units won't cross a bridge in a river battle but instead use the fjord even if the bridge is closer. You
    have to order units on the bridge first then order them across

    If the AI has stationary artillery as reinforcements you can't win the battle as they will never show up

    Sandbags and puckle guns - the barrels of the guns detach from the their bases (still manned by the crew) and
    are unelectable for the rest of the battle, the sandbags deploy with the remaining parts of the guns. Don't know
    if the barrels would fire as the cursor target was showing as out of range for the duration of the battle.

    Pike Units: insist on turning sideways if "pike wall" formation is ordered.

    The 'fire & advance' drill (sorry if I've remembered the name wrongly) seems bugged. If a unit takes losses, they
    will reform before firing again, slowing down their rate of fire to the extent that micromanagement is much
    preferable

    Long range canister shot. You can select roundshot, select a target then switch to canister, even
    though the canister shot should be out of range it can hit troops more of a problem with
    MP than SP

    When a larger deck ship boards a small ship the ropes don't connect to the deck resulting in mass suicide
    96 men vs 9 men and getting routed and being left with less than 30. Not to sure which are the offending ships
    but believe it has to do with boarding galley/light galleys with larger ships

    Light infantry face backwards

    Ships kept far away from the conflict(trade ships esp) can mysteriously lose men and cannons

    Just had a battle with 3 units of dragoons that were either invisible or under the map. was
    ambushed by the Cherokee, and started the battle in column formation and sandwiched between
    two lines of the enemy - my infantry were all present and correct, but my 3 units of dragoons were
    nowhere to be seen - they could be selected and given move orders - I could see the target ark
    and the green movement lines, but they never moved or attacked. The AI mobbed where they were
    on the map, but couldn't attack them.
    My infantry were wiped out, but I won the battle thanks to these invisible dragoons (by cheesily
    running down the clock).

    During an attack on me, France stuck a unit of line infantry behind a barricade. It stated that they
    were firing(at a unit of flintlock armed citizens in a building), but they were not. Further, they
    continued to tire out as they were not firing.

    When you hit end battle (because the entire enemy army is routing) the game autoresolves with
    whats left. I know this for a fact because my general gets kills and sometims losses even
    though he stood idle the whole battle. Crediting kills sure but taking losses after the battle is over?
    Also sometimes results in generals death

    Light infantry in 'light infantry mode' will often face the wrong way refusing to shoot unless you use
    the 'advance forward' button.

    Light-Dragoons do not reload their rifles when they are idle. Which is a big disadvantage for their
    tactical usage.

    Canister shot fires at pointblank range but nothing happens

    Limbering/unlimbering artillery once the battle starts seems buggy, appears you need to delay
    giving them new orders(after limbering/unlimbering) for about 20 seconds otherwise they do stupid
    things.

    Limbering 1 artillery unit in battle causes all artillery to be limbered whether they are grouped or not

    Unit stuck under hill on deployment on ambush and unable to move to target location.

    Sometime the AI will garission/place a cavalries unit into a house.
    -Sometime AI cavalries unit are unclickable (happened in the same battle i had with the cavalry
    garrisoned into a building).

    When defeating an army in a city if you hit continue battle instead of end battle, you have to
    capture/kill every single man for victory otherwise the autospawn militia just respawn along with
    the remnants of the defeated army that evaded capture, whereas if you hit end battle you get the
    city

    CTD

    When artillery crew (puckle guns for sure maybe other artillery) is in melee and given a move order you get a CTD

    CTD after a naval battle where your AI ally gets attacked and your reinforcements. May have to do with the fact
    the AI fleet was sunk/surrendered, even though the human won the battle for their AI ally it shows the losing
    attacker as capturing ships even though the player captured ships for their ally. Once you hit the checkmark to
    close the battle statistics the game CTD

    Stealing a tech that you were currently researching can cause a CTD when you select that tech

    CTD occurs every time a grand campaign is started but resetting preferences .txt stops this

    Clicking on a specific fleet causes a CTD even after a reload The fleet is permabugged until a ship is
    added to it

    One problem I've found in my current game is the game crashes after Spain is destroyed. The turn
    after Spain dies and Colombia and Mexico arise as nations, at the end of the AI's turns the
    game crashes (ETW.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close...). I stopped taking Spain's
    last province (Lombardy) but even when an AI faction defeats Spain the game crashes at
    the end of the AI's turn cycle.

    Having a general recruit a unit and then destroying/damaging and building that produce the unit will
    cause a CTD when you clink on that army on the next turn.

    Winning a Revolution by Siege crashes the game.

    campaigns becoming corrupt. When reloaded from a prior year the CTD occurs at the same year
    (recommend emailing these saved games to CA so they can see why a CTD is occurring)

    An army will duplicate itself causing a CTD if you move 1 of the armies if you saved after the
    duplication they appear to work fine except you had to deal with a CTD and got a free army

    The game may CTD when starting a revolution and will constantly CTD when trying to load from
    that point

    When exchanging ships with a blockading fleet a CTD can occur

    Sometimes merging units together causes a CTD

    Campaign

    Intercepting the AI forces them to be the attacker and potentially can force them to attack a fort even with all
    cavalry army. The game loads the battle and instantly loads the campaign map causing the player to wait out the
    loading screens

    AI can land ships on top of your fleets or other factions allowing the to be hiding and unattackable
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=116453

    Land Bridges: this is a well known bug, but I did not see it in the list above. The AI frequently (not always) seems
    unable to figure out how to use land-bridges. Sweden in particular is plagued by this problem. Their armies would
    get stuck near Kopenhagen and unable to move in any direction from there. Once this happens, Sweden's AI turn
    takes forever to complete...

    Inter-AI diplomacy: the AI never seems to make peace with other AI factions. If I drag my allies into a war with
    someone, they are still at war with that faction 30 years later. This must hurt AI economy tremendously and I do
    not believe it is working as intended (in the previous TW titles, AI factions would make peace with each other).


    Revolution, apparently when you pick a side it is possible for your faction to be defeated and the
    game ends (disputed whether a bug or not) More emphasis your faction is defeated immediately when picking a
    side not turns later

    This happens to me whenever I resume a game from a save during an AI turn - that is, the AI
    attacks my stack, I save the game and quit to Windows. When I load the save, the battle is played
    out and when my turn starts, I have lost the ability to scroll the map with the mouse. (don't
    quicksave on the AI's turn for now)

    Prussia's trade later in the game shows up as zero in the trade summary but still get trade income

    State gifts- small and large ones both give the same bonus(apparently this worked properly prepatch 25 bonus for
    2500, 50 for 5000 and 100 for 10000)

    Prussian army west of konigsburg causes delays when selecting them. disbanding the pikemen may
    cause a CTD but after that unit is disbanded all works fine

    Some AI's turns take more than 1 minute all the way up to 15 minutes

    Defeating a nation that was raiding/blockading trade appears to permanently block/raid that trade
    as the ships retire from the map but the blockade/raid doesn't go away

    Fleet arrives at a teleport box but right on top of an enemy fleet and cannot move and no option of
    retreat when attacked

    Exchanges with the AI the AI gets their part of the deal but the player doesn't get his/her part

    has anyone had this? i sold a region, set it for 5000 for the next 20 turns to be paid repeatedly,
    made the sell lose the region and................no money comes in. is this a bug

    Armies/navies don't always get the intercept option

    War Script error -
    I attacked Portugal in Europe and in the same turn, I attacked Portugal in India by trying to land
    troops, and it's on an "Access Denied" screen saying to declare war/request access/cancel
    move, but every time I click cancel move, it comes back up again.

    Army stuck on the campaign map after defeating ambush

    Scrambled text occuring in the game https://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?im...publicwhat.jpg

    When changing government types it may fail to register
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    When blockading a port, some ports seem to have no problem but others you get up to 1 minute of
    lag and after that 30 - 60 second your blockade order is cancelled and your fleet is still
    where it was (annoying) The port of sarjevo is a good example to blockade it -- it will never be
    blockaded if your fleet is coming from the south, you have to move your fleet north of the
    ports zone of control raid the trade route for 1 turn then you can blockade it from the north. Wierd
    and it seems the bug is caused possibly by shipless ports having a zone of control. Also ships have
    trouble with orders to blockade a port that is under the FOW

    If you capture a territory that had a port being blockaded by another faction (neutral/allied to you)
    the fleet gets stuck outside of the port and is considered blockaded and you can't build ships

    Sometimes a besieging army can't be attacked, possibly only occurs on the last turn

    If the AI targets 1 unit with 3 units but that 1 unit merges with 19 other units the AI still targets it,
    whats worse if the AI does catch up it shows odds in the AI's favour and if its autoresolved those
    3 units massacre those 20 units Appears to happen to AI vs AI also Where I've seen small stacks
    crush big armies

    DIPLOMACY

    AI never makes peace with other AI factions

    Prussia will continuously trade East Prussia for Courland giving money and techs each turn

    Your Allies can be enemies

    Agents

    If my rakes fail their infiltration attempt, but survive, right-clicking on the target again
    automatically succeeds in infiltrating the city. Though, the successful infiltration message doesn't
    show up until the start of the next turn.

    They sometimes disapear when boarding a ship

    Sometimes selecting new agents moves the army instead of him

    If more than 1 agent targets the same thing there orders get canceled

    Trade

    Sometimes the trade screen shows nothing even when your trading with other nations but on your income tab it
    shows your are getting trade income. Seems to be related to certain factions.

    When breaking a fleet from a trade resource the fleet remaining gets stuck there breaking the
    trade resource for the rest of the game

    When adding a mechant ship to a resource it doesnt calculate until the next turn(possibly not a
    bug)

    Trade agreement seems buggy if your capital is landlocked and have or captured a seport with a
    trading port (possibly not a bug, but needs more transparency) Another example is when Britain
    takes French regions with ports they don't get extra trade routes because the ports cant be trace
    to London by land

    Minor bugs

    Can't repair city defenses (feature or bug?)

    When the adviser speaks on the campaign map and you scroll around the sound gets cutoff

    setting flags to mouseover does not work properly and goes to default

    Movies have sound stutter on some computers

    Replays seem to go haywire and is not an actual replay of the battle

    Advisers speech becomes stuttered on some machines

    Graphical

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=81

    Cannons ramrod animation is off sometimes not even touching the barrel in the animation

    Iroquois units don't have sprites so when you zoom out they are invisible

    Gameplay

    other income not broken down such as tribute protectorate income and what not

    Sound gets muted/unmuted after changing speeds

    AI never retreats even when heavily outnumbered

    Units not reloading when idle

    Sometimes ordering troops behind the wall is the wrong side and the other side cant be selected

    Defeated duelist can take a long hike if a land bridge is blocked IE. morrocco to gibralter the long
    way

    AI will not leave a building getting pounded by artillery

    Units on swampy ground move way too slow

    Cavalry charges directly into stakes

    AI won't move away from fortifications(trenches/walls) when you outrange them

    Can't merge a dead generals bodyguards into a living general

    Naval Chokepoints especially the strait of gibralter being blocked by neutral/allied navies

    Not bugs

    Trade port not opening up. A trade port needs a land route to your capital if it cannot be linked to your capital it
    won't trade. So Iceland and Malta will never trade even with a port

    Can't make an enemy become a protectorate
    Yes you can. First check the peace treaty option, then the option to demand protectorate
    becomes available

    Own ships showing a pirate flag
    When your own ships or another nations ships flash a pirate flag it means they are looting an
    enemy trade route

    Plug bayonettes: The game description only mentions that plug bayonettes have trouble being
    removed from guns, on the battlefield if you use plug bayonets they are a permanent melee unit
    until they are back on the campaign map.

    Generals appearing as a blank card, need more insight on this and I believe it has to do with when
    the general dies

    Moving gentleman to captured university gives the same alternatives as for hostile universities.
    Poster wasn't clear on this but I believe the real function that is happening is you took over the
    university with enemy gentlemen inside so it gives you the option to visit(help research) or duel
    enemy gentlemen

    Cannons moving through walls/fences I think gameplay won here as it'd be annoying to manever
    cannons around the small obstacles

    Workarounds

    Stuck trade fleet you can scupper the ships to reopen the trade spot

    Specific fleet causing a CTD everytime you click on it add one ship to the troublesome fleet and the
    problem goes away

    constant CTD from starting a new campaing reset your preferences.txt
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    low on time, but:


    Revolution, apparently when you pick a side it is possible for your faction to be defeated and the
    game ends

    is not a bug.
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    CTD occurs every time a grand campaign is started but resetting preferences .txt stops this
    Is this the crash that occurs after selecting a new grand campaign or the one that causes a ctd as you click the Grand Campaign button. And how do I reset my preferences .txt?

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    Great work Oaty. If I can be so bold, it would be good if you could continue to consolidate, adding any new issues to your original post if you judge them worth being in there.


    Forts

    Pathfinding in general in forts is buggy. In particular:

    (i) I find cavalry units regularly get stuck in fort doors when you order them out or in. This means the attacker has an open door to walk through. In previous TW games you could usually workaround by reordering the unit and/or making them run; in ETW they seem to get stuck for good.

    (ii) Defending units on walls will abseil down ropes to pursue attackers. Worse, they will sometimes choose to use ropes and move around the outside when ordered to another part of the fort.

    Battles

    The 'fire & advance' drill (sorry if I've remembered the name wrongly) seems bugged. If a unit takes losses, they will reform before firing again, slowing down their rate of fire to the extent that micromanagement is much preferable.

    This has been an issue since MTW: redrawing out a line/formation with multiple units using a depressed mouse button. If a unit has taken losses, its frontage should be recalculated to take that into account and adjusted accordingly. To take an example: 2 units of line infantry, one at full 80, another with only 20 men left. When I draw them out to form a new line, the first unit should have 4 times the frontage, so that their depths are always the same. Since MTW, the frontages have remained in proportion to an full strength unit of that type, which is usually useless.

    I've not tested this myself but have seen reports in a thread: units set to fire at will and guard mode will sometimes still turn to an angle before firing at a target. Not sure if that is after a manual fire targetting click or just when selecting a target automatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Isles View Post
    Great work Oaty. If I can be so bold, it would be good if you could continue to consolidate, adding any new issues to your original post if you judge them worth being in there.
    I agree.

    My two cents:

    Inter-AI diplomacy: the AI never seems to make peace with other AI factions. If I drag my allies into a war with someone, they are still at war with that faction 30 years later. This must hurt AI economy tremendously and I do not believe it is working as intended (in the previous TW titles, AI factions would make peace with each other).

    Forts: at least according to fort descriptions, the higher level fort wall defenses should be more dangerous (for attackers). In the game, this is not the case, if the player gets to control the walls in star forts (and gun forts). Wall cannons are fired only once the enemy is at very close range. However, if the AI controls the walls, cannons are fired at the normal cannon range. This does not seem to work as intended. Also, player units placed on higher end fort walls do not seem to be able to hit anything with musket fire.

    Pike Units: insist on turning sideways if "pike wall" formation is ordered.

    Succession Wars: republics tend to declare succession wars. It does not make sense.

    Major European Powers: AI controlled major European powers seem too weak compared to the minors. AI controlled France is frequently destroyed early in the game by Wuttenberg or Savoy; Holland - by Westphalia...

    Land Bridges: this is a well known bug, but I did not see it in the list above. The AI frequently (not always) seems unable to figure out how to use land-bridges. Sweden in particular is plagued by this problem. Their armies would get stuck near Kopenhagen and unable to move in any direction from there. Once this happens, Sweden's AI turn takes forever to complete...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaty View Post
    BUGS
    State gifts- small and large ones both give the same bonus
    No it doesn't.

    Giving 2500 gift gives you +25 points with the faction.
    Giving 5000 gift gives you +50 points with the faction.
    Giving 10,000 gift gives you +100 points with the faction.

    These points don't stack.

    Unless a patch broke this since I tested this myself basically when the game first came out, it should still work the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    Major European Powers: AI controlled major European powers seem too weak compared to the minors. AI controlled France is frequently destroyed early in the game by Wuttenberg or Savoy; Holland - by Westphalia...
    I have only seen this on the forum, never in any of my games. Usually, France always taken over those provinces by itself and Netherlands taking over Westphalia.
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    Battles

    'Cover' seems to be bugged after tech like 'fire by rank' is developed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    I have only seen this on the forum, never in any of my games. Usually, France always taken over those provinces by itself and Netherlands taking over Westphalia.
    I have seen none of both so far. France is just a hangaround faction in my campaigns so far. It neighter conquered anything nor was defeated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    No it doesn't.

    Giving 2500 gift gives you +25 points with the faction.
    Giving 5000 gift gives you +50 points with the faction.
    Giving 10,000 gift gives you +100 points with the faction.

    These points don't stack.

    Unless a patch broke this since I tested this myself basically when the game first came out, it should still work the same.
    Not sure how it was BEFORE the patch, but in my current games the 2,500 gift definitely gives +100 points to my relationship with faction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator View Post
    Battles

    'Cover' seems to go broke after tech like 'fire by rank' is developed.



    I have seen none of both so far. France is just a hangaround faction in my campaigns so far. It neighter conquered anything nor was defeated
    I have seen France destroyed by the small AI factions several times in my VH (not sure if the difficulty has anything to do with it) campaigns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    No it doesn't.

    Giving 2500 gift gives you +25 points with the faction.
    Giving 5000 gift gives you +50 points with the faction.
    Giving 10,000 gift gives you +100 points with the faction.

    These points don't stack.

    Unless a patch broke this since I tested this myself basically when the game first came out, it should still work the same.
    Nope. Giving the 2500 gift definitely gives +100 rep. I never give a higher gift amount because they have identical results. I imagine this is not what was intended.
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    I've updated the bugs list and plan to continue to do so for at least a couple months. Feel free to report further bugs as if CA doesn't know about them they won't get patched
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaty View Post
    I've updated the bugs list and plan to continue to do so for at least a couple months.
    Thank you very much!

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    Trade:

    Countries you trade with (have negotiated a trade agreement with, as shown in the diplomacy window) do not appear on your trade list. Neither is any income from these countries.
    I had this with Sweden when playing UK campaign and with the Ottomans when playing as Prussia.

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    When an admirals flagship with plenty of men left boards a ship with nearly no men left he can lose almost the whole crew and route. 96 men vs 9 men and getting routed?
    This is not confined to admirals' ships, it is a docking problem between ships. I don't remember which particular types of ships were involved when I saw it, but I know my ship had more decks than the enemy ship. When I docked for boarding, the only way across was via ropes. Many of my crew appeared to jump over the railing onto the enemy ship, which was some distance lower than them. Instead of landing on the deck, nearly all of them fell right through the deck and drowned instantly. This resulted in about 80% of my ship's crew dying and routed my ship.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmk View Post
    Trade:

    Countries you trade with (have negotiated a trade agreement with, as shown in the diplomacy window) do not appear on your trade list. Neither is any income from these countries.
    I had this with Sweden when playing UK campaign and with the Ottomans when playing as Prussia.
    Could it be that 1) you do not produce anything they need/lack at the time; 2) their trade routes are blocked?

    I usually see everyone I have agreements with in my list though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    Could it be that 1) you do not produce anything they need/lack at the time; 2) their trade routes are blocked?

    I usually see everyone I have agreements with in my list though.
    1) No. You still sell generic trade goods
    2) No. You will see a trade route but is blocked.

    I have had the same experience. I was traiding with countries according to the diplomatic sreen which didn't show up in the trade screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    Could it be that 1) you do not produce anything they need/lack at the time; 2) their trade routes are blocked?

    I usually see everyone I have agreements with in my list though.
    Unfortunately not. I have goods a plenty to trade and none of their parts are blocked.

    One other thing I noticed - sometimes trade agreements are cancelled by the AI without notification. Usually I get the two screens (1. "trade with you is no longer fun" ;-) and 2. "Trade agreement has been..."). Sometimes these notifications are missing.

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    Not sure how it was BEFORE the patch, but in my current games the 2,500 gift definitely gives +100 points to my relationship with faction.
    Given it a mental note. I been doing the 10,000 and never noticed the break, doh. :(
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    As Sweden I made peace with Russia and agreed to pay them 1k for 10 turns. However, after, the only way to figure out that I had an agreement was to check my "other" income, which went down to 2k for the duration. The diplomacy screen was absolutely no help, it didn't think that any agreement had been made.

    It would be nice to have a breakdown of your "other" income. I'd like to know how much my various protectorates give me.

    Possibly not a bug, but maybe pirates should build a few more defensive units and maybe even take weakly defended nearby provinces... but that would need the complete lack of AI invasions to be fixed - not on your list?

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    Other odd trade theater bugs

    More than one faction on a spot.

    Unable to attack Pirate Fleets on a trade spot.

    At the moment in a campaign I am playing there is a Dutch and a Spanish fleet sharing the same trade spot. I can not attack the Spanish fleet, only the Dutch.

    I am also sharing a spot with a pirate fleet which can not be attacked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Other odd trade theater bugs

    More than one faction on a spot.

    Unable to attack Pirate Fleets on a trade spot.

    At the moment in a campaign I am playing there is a Dutch and a Spanish fleet sharing the same trade spot. I can not attack the Spanish fleet, only the Dutch.

    I am also sharing a spot with a pirate fleet which can not be attacked.
    More than one faction on a spot seems to be a by-product of the bug that 'incapacitates' fleets on a trade spot. The fleets cannot be moved (only destroyed) and they do not trade. Once this happened to me and I forgot about the fleet for a turn. The next turn: a Dutch fleet was sitting on the same spot (while my fleet was still there) and trading away...

    Being unable to attack pirate fleets seems a by-product of the same issue...

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    I believe the whole interception mechanism does not work as intended. In the current version of the game, If I choose the option to intercept anybody passing by, while I am sitting in a fort, I get to DEFEND while sitting behind the walls. Come on,... if I am INTERCEPTING I should be the one in the field trying to chase the enemy that's trying to sneak by.

    The following example clearly shows that the current system is not working as intended (or does not have much logic to it).

    1. I sit in a fort with a FULL STACK.
    2. Two(!) enemy CAVALRY units try to sneak by aiming for my factory town behind the fort.
    3. I get the option to INTERCEPT.

    Decision path A:

    4. Fine, I choose the option to ATTACK.
    5. As we go into the battle-mode, enemy loses (without the battle even opening). Of course, cavalry cannot storm the fort (at least in the game)... And, come to think of it, probably did not intend to ATTACK my fort anyway. They were trying to SNEAK BY.

    ... if I chose not to go into the battle screen but rather auto-resolved, I would still win, but both sides would suffer losses.

    Decision path B:

    4. Fine, I choose the option to DECLINE ATTACK
    5. Enemy cavalry proceeds on their merry way to burn my town behind the fort (not attack my fort).

    Clearly, the side that intercepts should be the one attacking, not the other way around. Under the current system, the AI is forced to storm fully garrisoned forts with raiders (1-3 units). What's force, the AI is forced to storm forts with cavalry-only groups... Even the TW AI wouldn't do that unless forced to do it by the game interception mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator View Post
    Battles

    'Cover' seems to be bugged after tech like 'fire by rank' is developed.
    So what about it?! Really think this feature is bugged!

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ighlight=Cover
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    It seems gunshot sounds are now completely messed up. When a volley is fired the sound is not accurate at all and even after all volleys are fired you still hear volleyfire as if its delayed somehow.

    Also when i order a unit to hold fire they will stop firing but the sound of volleyfire is still playing even though they are idle.

    I dont know why the sound is messed up now because it didend behave like this when i first installed the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aimlesswanderer View Post
    As Sweden I made peace with Russia and agreed to pay them 1k for 10 turns. However, after, the only way to figure out that I had an agreement was to check my "other" income, which went down to 2k for the duration. The diplomacy screen was absolutely no help, it didn't think that any agreement had been made.

    It would be nice to have a breakdown of your "other" income. I'd like to know how much my various protectorates give me.

    You've taken on a major undertaking, thank you!
    As far as the game goes you only get 3 income statements tax, trade and other, the easy way to figure it out is to find out what your base other income is and then do deductions from there
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    Forts

    If you capture a region that has a ford in it, the ford changes to your culture. I captured Punjab in my British campaign and the Mughal fortes changed in a star fort. In my Ottoman campaign all the star fortresses in Europe became Eastern forts.

    Trade

    The trade screen can get corrupted. I have had a trade screen that wasn't showing trade while according to the diplomatic screen I was trading with a faction.
    AND
    I have now a trade screen where I have three trade routes with the UP and two with the Ottoman Empire. This ads some 12,000 extra gold to my treasury each turn.
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    Pretty minor one, but: It snows far more often in battles in north africa and southern spain than one would normally expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaty View Post

    intercepting the AI forces them to be the attacker and potentially can force them to attack a fort even with all
    cavalry army. Exploit you can just wait the timer out and not allow the AI to pass
    Oaty, this is not entirely accurate. If a fort based player army intercepts an AI all-cavalry army and the player chooses the option 'attack' (instead of 'autoresolve'), the battle map would not even load. It would attempt to load, but at the end of the loading process the program finally figures out that the all-cavalry army CANNOT storm a fort. So it gives the player an automatic win (0-loss) and brings him right back to the strategy map sending the AI army 'into the stratosphere' (well, back into its provinces).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaists View Post
    More than one faction on a spot seems to be a by-product of the bug that 'incapacitates' fleets on a trade spot. The fleets cannot be moved (only destroyed) and they do not trade. Once this happened to me and I forgot about the fleet for a turn. The next turn: a Dutch fleet was sitting on the same spot (while my fleet was still there) and trading away...

    Being unable to attack pirate fleets seems a by-product of the same issue...
    This is because once your units get stuck this way, the program sees the trade spot as open since your unit has for all intents and purposes been removed from further gameplay.

    To expand on this bug, I attacked a Spanish fleet on a trade spot and defeated them such that they had a few surviving ships which should have retreated. Instead, they got stuck on their way out of the trade spot. I think it was the 'retreat' part of the AI action that created the hiccup, not the battle itself. Needless to say I was still able to use the trade zone myself for the next 40 years while the Spanish lingered alongside in limbo.

    Forts: I had another similar bug with forts- the cause is related I think. I was occupying a Russian fort, in Russian territory, with my veteran eastern army and negotiated peace. This should have resulted in the return of all units in enemy territory. Instead, I found my stack of crack troops still in the Russian province, 'standing' in the of the fort spot, and completely stuck. It was eerily reminiscent of the trade spot bug. I think they again got stuck during the AI's attempt to 'retreat' them out of the fort back to my territory. I had no option to move them, could not bear to disband my best army, so I quit the campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveybaby View Post
    Pretty minor one, but: It snows far more often in battles in north africa and southern spain than one would normally expect.
    Lol, I guess, all the north african battles were fought in the Atlas mountains :)) It does snow there. I have seen it myself: snowfall so dense, I could not see further than a couple meters from my car's window...

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