Do you cheat with Pahlava?

[Jebivjetar]

I ask this because to me it seems impossible to go ahead with Pahlava unless you cheat, with process_cq or add_money cheat: offcourse, alternatively you can play all the time with 4-5 horsarchers and fighting same old battles with them... Pahlavan cities make too little money to finance armies and building projects in same time: i have aprox 10 towns, and still cant get any money for buildings: AS are attacking me all the time, i barely had money to build barracks for horse archers near border with them so i can defend myself(so i dont need to wait about 5 turns to bring H/As from my capital): i can finance about one stack of horse archers and foot archers and nothing more! I have no money to build anything, even traders: there are just too many buildings you must build to get reformed gov, and a lot of time to do so: still, money is a HUGE issue with Pahlava...

Has anybody achieved something with them without using any cheat? I ask this because i dont want to cheat, and if i find Pahlava impossible without cheating, ill rather just quit my campaign...


Here is picture of my progress. except now i have Baktria too

[seienchin]

I guess most people raid the Seleukid Lands to get money.
Anyway if you dont want that just capture Baktrian Lands. They have a whole lot of mines there giving plenty of money. And never built client rulers!!! They cost more than 1000 a turn in the east

[A Very Super Market]

Heh. Don't play Saka, Hayasdan, or Pontos then.....

[seienchin]

None of them has this Problem.
As Pontos you have money, only a really bad position. Same with Hayasdan. The Saka have no money, but nothing threatens them right?

[A Very Super Market]

Your bad situation creates a need for money to defend yourself, thus depleting the fairly little amount you have.

[HunGeneral]

I would suggest you try I "roleplay-plan" of mine: simply use add_money cheat so that you don't go into the red (in other words you will only use the cheat to add money and make youre treasury is equall to 0) this way you still won't have any money but you will be able to get on your legs when raiding AS or Baktria settlements.

The reason whiy I find this legitim is that Nomadic "economy" knows no debt - most of your soldiers fight for loot, honor and to be aknowledged as great warriors. So the RTW system doesn't represent this very realisticly.

I always use it to start my Saka, Sauromatae, Pahlav campaigns. Although with Pahlav it would be unfair if you use it after youre people have settled. If you wan't to represent this perfectly then conquer all provinces with Homeland resource for Phalav and only then start building the reformed goverments. (haven't tried this one yet however...)