Do you cheat with Pahlava?

**Marcus Ulpius** · 05-02-2009, 20:06

Small factions spamming full stacks is not much a problem for any empire with good steady economy. I remember that in my Roman campaign Lusos were reduced to two settlements, but they had like 3 full stacks of troops. Eventually I've killed them all, but at that point I had tons of money and could support numerous full stacks on all fronts.

It can however be a huge problem for economically struggling factions, like Pahlava, Hayasdan etc. I think that making AI assistance script work in some kind of dynamic way could solve that, but I'm not sure it is possible, and even if it is possible, EB team priorities lie elsewhere.

**Jebivjetar** · 05-03-2009, 01:19

O, yes, im really tired of that AI army-spamming... Its not realistic anymore: its just boring, like, 2-3 full stacks from one Bactrian town, and many full stacks from crushed AS: so ive decided to transport them into Italy, and when the time comes, ill make them come back and then, after i manage to get some capable army, i will crush them.

If i had quit any of my campaigns, its because of AI spamming armies: i just hate it: especially when playing Pahlava... Script just aint fair...

**Jebivjetar** · 05-03-2009, 01:29

As a matter of fact: it's impossible to enjoy building an empire whatever i do with Pahlava: it's ALWAYS about blitzing, even if you conquer about 20-30 cities: you're always at beginning,no matter what you do... I've found that Script is cool: but, when playing Pahlava, it ain't...

Man, Pahlava is most difficult faction that i have played

**Atraphoenix** · 05-03-2009, 12:24

Originally Posted by Jebivjetar

As a matter of fact: it's impossible to enjoy building an empire whatever i do with Pahlava: it's ALWAYS about blitzing, even if you conquer about 20-30 cities: you're always at beginning,no matter what you do... I've found that Script is cool: but, when playing Pahlava, it ain't...

Man, Pahlava is most difficult faction that i have played

That is why nearly all of my modes based on playing with pahlava.
but again the only solution is BLITZING!

**Marcus Ulpius** · 05-03-2009, 14:30

I'm currently at the very beginning of my Pahlava campaign and it seems that the only way to survive is to expand as fast as possible while AS only sends pantodapoi and akontistai. That's why I think about going forward with that campaign or not. I don't like blitzing and prefer more gradual expansion.

**Jebivjetar** · 05-03-2009, 19:15

@Atraphoenix: ill try your mod. thanx for instructions

@Marcus Ulpius: Yes, thats why ive quit my Pahlava campaign. Blitzing is fun for me, but just in the beginning: after some time (when i conquer 10-20 provinces) i would like to sit and build without 3 battles per turn, and without that annoying and endless AI armies. So, ive decided to start a new Pahlava campaign, but also ive decided to do some modding on the script, so the AI wont get those huge money bonuses: i hope that will stop it from spawning armies. Like ive already said somewhere elsewhere: script is cool when you play "easy" factions: but when playing Pahlava, IT JUST AINT!

**ChingizLink** · 08-02-2010, 02:00

Originally Posted by Marcus Ulpius

I'm currently at the very beginning of my Pahlava campaign and it seems that the only way to survive is to expand as fast as possible while AS only sends pantodapoi and akontistai. That's why I think about going forward with that campaign or not. I don't like blitzing and prefer more gradual expansion.

And that is another reason why I found a happy medium with cheats: I can't even bring myself to describe how much of the map I scrounged up within a few turns by, uh...well, basically squeezing alot out of a single turn : ) In my current campaign I'm actually frustrated with the Seleucids' lack of aggression and the wimpy half stacks they kept sending me. (I was playing Medium campaign and Hard battles, now I'm doing Hard/Hard, and thinking about taking the plunge...) I ended up figuring out how to rush the March of Time and the Seleucid Reform, in addition to giving them tons of dough (same with Rome and Macedon...man, Macedonia is REALLY getting its butt kicked in my campaign. It just isn't right! I'd almost prefer the Macedonian juggernaught from ye olde RTR!)

Back to my point, with regards to the Seleucids, I want armageddon, I tell you! And I want it to last well into the second century BC! I want them to be as cheap and evil as they are on RTR (ie full stacks of Macedonian Phalanxes with cataphracts, archers, and several cavalry units showing up every turn) but with the improved gameplay, visuals, and historical detail of EB. And that AI just can't take a hint, I tell you!

**Lazy O** · 08-02-2010, 04:34

I think your concept is wrong here, Im playing with Saka Rauka but since theyre almost the same,...

You do not need to cheat. Right from turn one you can go all out smashing anything that comes in your way, FMs with horse archers are impossible to face with Phalanx armies, None of my armies have yet sat down peacefully, theyve been on the move since turn one. I mean, Your a NOMAD, its your LIFE going out far and wide looking for things to kill.