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    Default The Current Status of Monarchism.

    Can any of our non-US members tell me on how the various monarchist groups are doing in their respective countries? Monarchist movements interest me in their political ideas.

    For example, the Austrian Black and Yellow Alliance supports a democratic monarchy, but with a twist. Since a Hapsburg monarch would not fit in well with just Austria, they propose a confederation of the former countries in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, all under a united parliament, but still retain local sovereignty (Think U.S. States) while the Emperor would be their sovereign (Think British monarch in countries like Canada, Australia).

    I, for one, find the idea of a democratic monarchy interesting. A monarch lies with no specific party, as oppossed to a president for example, and is supposed to represent his or her country's people. A monarch is a figure that all people of a nation can rally behind.

    So, international Orgahs, what has happened with the monarchist movements in your countries?
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    The cool thing about constitutional monarchy is that your steel mills, textile mills, mines and steam docks don't give negative contentment penalties anymore. For this reason alone I am prepared to nominate Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes to become our figureheads of state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    The cool thing about constitutional monarchy is that your steel mills, textile mills, mines and steam docks don't give negative contentment penalties anymore. For this reason alone I am prepared to nominate Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes to become our figureheads of state.
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    So, international Orgahs, what has happened with the monarchist movements in your countries?
    It ended rather suddenly in 1649. The King had a haircut and all was lost.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    I wish there was monarchist movement but they keep sitting
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    Our monarchists over here are somewhat strange .
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlXII View Post
    So, international Orgahs, what has happened with the monarchist movements in your countries?
    They seem to have lost their heads...


    Quote Originally Posted by IA
    About the only thing that stays my republican hand is the prospect of a President Blair or Brown or god forbid Mandelson. Just look at the characters the French and Americans have had recently as their head of state. It make one's blood run cold, what, what
    A French/US presidential model is not the only alternative to a hereditary head of state. What's more, contrary to monarchist scaremongering, this model is so alien to British/Australian customs that it is the least likely replacement for hereditary monarchy.


    Giorgio Napolitano and Horst Köhler are the current presidents of Italy and Germany. People have never heard of them because they fulfill only the ceremonial powers of head of state. This model, I think, would best suit the political parliamentary traditions of the UK, Canada, Australia.

    One can go one further too: Switzerland has a Conseil fédéral. This council of seven people functions collectively as head of state.
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    Oh I know that Louis, Ireland also springs to mind. Somehow though I get the feeling that Mssrs. Blair/Brown/Cameron et al would see this as too good an opportunity to let pass.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    History of Monarchism in Greece.


    We created democracy. We do not have kings. Some bloody foreign German-Dutch inbred people tried to convince us otherwise and became our monarchy for a while. We sent them to live in London and good riddance to them. They can now inbreed peacefully and grow their tails as long as they like.


    So, international Orgahs, what has happened with the monarchist movements in your countries?
    It is mostly a group of old men with Altzheimer's although not all of them really count because some probably think there is still a king...
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    Oh I know that Louis, Ireland also springs to mind. Somehow though I get the feeling that Mssrs. Blair/Brown/Cameron et al would see this as too good an opportunity to let pass.
    They would too, wouldn't they? Cheeky bastards.

    Oh well. Always remember: no matter how insane the UK, one needs only to cross the channel to go one worse. Your PM's dream of presidency. Our presidents dream of being monarchs.

    Little Sun Kings, the lot of them. They get away with it too. What's more, they are expected to. With the exception of Sarkozy, French presidents are of a very tall physical stature. Aloof of character. Refined, even affected, in manners. Building Grand Works in Paris to leave a physical mark. (Not that I mind the last, but it is 'doggy syndrome')


    Fun fact: De Gaulle, Giscard d'Estaing, Mitterand, Sarkozy are all nobility, or have a major noble element in their family line. That's right, France prefers to elect noblemen to the throne. Uh, I mean, to the presidency.
    Pompidou and Chirac are the only elected presidents of the Fifth Republic of overwhelming bourgeois origin.



    Ireland also springs to mind
    Ireland. I forgot about them. I simply can't keep up with all this devolution in Britain.
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    Since they've had de facto independence since 1922 I understand how hard it is to keep up.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

    “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”

    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    Not much a movement here, support dropped to about 62% though.

    The main party in power for about 70% of the time (Social democrats) have the abolishment of monarchy in their party program. They never touch that issue.
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    There's no real pro-monarchy movement here that I know of, probably because the anti-monarchy movement is almost non-existent as well. Most people don't care about the royal family as long as they manage to stay out of the media.
    I'm technicly a "republican" but since my favoured model is that of Germany, it wouldn't make that much of a difference so it's not that important to me.

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