How to force an absolute monarchy?

[Dayve]

As it is, i find United Provinces is probably the most interesting nation to start a game with, at least for someone like me who likes to build up a trade empire and only go to war when my allies call for my help, and then use the opportunity to grab more land, make more money to give to the enemies of my enemies, state gifts to my most valuable friends and sow them that i'm more profitable to be an ally with, rather than an enemy.

Problem is, republics suck. I like to feel as though i'm in TOTAL control of my lands and ministers, and able to replace them with my own puppets to do exactly what i want them to do, whenever i want to replace them.

I don't understand how to make the people rebel in favour of a monarchy though, because a republic is obviously better for the lower classes, who generally fight revolutions, than an absolute monarchy... so how to do it?

Then when i find out i'll begin a game as UP and make it absolute monarchy on turn 2.

[batemonkey]

I think (not that i've actually done it) you need to cause a revolution by the upper classes.

So basically tax them to buggery

[Darth Venom]

I haven't done it myself but to go from republic to monarchy you need two consecutive middle/upper class revolts. The first gives you a const. monarchy, the second absolute. So raise their taxes while lowering the lower class ones (to makes sure they don't revolt simultaniously), and makes them otherwise unhappy (ministers with traits, ...)
Also remove any troops from the capital province to prevent them from intervening during the uprising. Exemt all other European provinces (if any) from taxes.

If everything goes as smooth as possible, you mighty pull that off in six turns. Good luck!

[Fisherking]

It seems to me it would be almost impossible to do, especially with the UP.

The region is so small and the likelihood of getting the nobility that upset is hard to see. With them keeping the lower class halfway happy is hard enough. The upper class almost is never upset enough to do anything.

[Khorak]

Oh it's easy if you do it right from the start. Amsterdam starts off with a school and no entertainment to make it simple for yourself. Just throw your whole army into boats in the channel so they can't get involved and max out upper class taxes. One turn of striking, one turn of rioting, revolution.

I always change the UP to a Constitutional Monarchy as quickly as possible.

[Liberator]

I don't know why but a lot of people seem to have a crush on the form of government.
You can play UP for ages on VH without taking any care of the people in the government.
Sure, sometimes kicking a 2 star minister makes some sence, his replacement just can't be worse.
Still, the overall effect of the form of government can be neglected.

[Khorak]

I don't know why but a lot of people seem to have a crush on the form of government.
You can play UP for ages on VH without taking any care of the people in the government.
Sure, sometimes kicking a 2 star minister makes some sence, his replacement just can't be worse.
Still, the overall effect of the form of government can be neglected.

A Constitutional Monarchy has Nobles as its upper class, and Middle Class at the bottom. It's completely unaffected by Industrialisation and a very large number of unhappiness causing attributes that appear on your government ministers, that only affect those working class peasants a CM doesn't even take into account.

I like factories. I don't like peasants.