Windows 7

[Fragony]

That sounds like you were running Vista on a 200MHz computer, Fragony, I've had no problems with Vista and Office 2007.

Running Crysis on medium. It does not matter how fast your computer is, Vista will eventually choke it, just a matter of time before it grows tired of chasing it's tail and needs a full reboot, I have no idea what it's thinking about, but it must be pretty complicated since it sometimes takes over half an hour before I can even open my browser, it usually takes more time because I have to make sure it actually does understand I want to open my browser, and you can never know if it's actually doing what you asked it to do or if it's completely lost in limbo. Turns out it did register your command, you end up with 5 crashed screens, Vista chokes, restart. restart. restart. FFS PLEASE RESTART. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Crash. restart restat restart FFS PLEASE RESTART IT ISN"T AS IF ASKED SO. MANY. TIMES. And yes I really want to do that. Yes I really want to do that. Did I already tell you I really want to do that? Yeah I still want to do it PLEASE DO IT. Needs a reboot. Now if you are keen on nursing your OS I guess it can be functional, but for someone on a schedule it isn't workable. That is just the internet, checking my e-mail. But I also need Office, 1 or 2 hours before I can open it, usually takes a few reboots because Vista is doing... something, and I can only hope my keyboard hasn't swapped. With my Macbook that is now BROKEN, start, pling, do, does. Why anyone but a gamer would rather drown in a bucket of mollases instead of paying more for something you can use is beyond me.

[Beskar]

This is not Vista, this is Windows 7, it is a different kettle of fish and uses half the resources Vista uses.

[Fragony]

This is not Vista, this is Windows 7, it is a different kettle of fish and uses half the resources Vista uses.

Be that as it may, what you are dealing with is pure hate. How they actually released such a thing such as Vista. XP wasn't even beyond beta status when they released it Vista. Now XP is really good, and it won't run certain programs because you are supposed to gob up their latest turd. A mac is expensive, and Apple is an truly annoying company with all their hardware-guru bull for people with odd glasses and purple pants, they deserve a neckshot. But it works and it's pretty so I forgive them.

[Beskar]

Did you ever use Windows ME from Windows 98?

Microsoft uses the formulae of "Good, Bad, Good, Bad, Good".

[Fragony]

Did you ever use Windows ME from Windows 98?

Microsoft uses the formulae of "Good, Bad, Good, Bad, Good".

That is when my personal relation with Microsoft became somewhat troublesome. I really liked windows 95. It has to be said that I still like Tosa. But he owes me bigtime.

But I have been converted I now pray to Steve Jobs. It is pure bliss to open your lappie, BONZAI yay have it working without even a hickup. Open document BAM it's there. 6 Hours later it's still there, it doesn't need it's own private powerplant because something, whatever it is but something, is frying it's skull.

[Beskar]

Sure, though a Mac costs twice the price of the current two year old computer I am using, which is probably like three times more powerful, with options such as being able to upgrade/optional/parts etc.

Also, I can have compatible software and play games.

Pretty Win-Win.

Only time I would consider another OS is Linux. Not overpriced Mac plastic.

(Oh, I am an ex-Mac user as well, back before they switched to Intel)

[Lemur]

Beskar, this is not an insurmountable obstacle.

Personally, I'm in a very happy place. I'm liking Windows 7, I'm liking OS X 10.6, and I get to play with both.

[al Roumi]

yeah i don't get the Mac attraction. I like to build my own machine and have that level of control of what's in it. Mac's aren't for people who prefer hardware/software flexibility. People rail against being locked in to Windows, but that's more of a misnception than a reality -especially when compared with a Mac...

I liked XP and I'm happy with Win7 so far. Glad I didn't get anywhere near Vista too.

[Lemur]

yeah i don't get the Mac attraction.

As a friend of mine who administrates a whole lot of Unix servers said to me, "You have no idea what it's like to get a Unix laptop that just works."

Look, I'm a computer slut—I like Windows, I like Linux, and I like OS X. I just plain dig computers and shiny gadgets. And I don't like it when Macheads bash Windows, or when Linux geeks bash everything that doesn't come with a GNU license, or when Win-heads bash Mac. Can't we all just get along?

[Fragony]

Sure, though a Mac costs twice the price of the current two year old computer I am using

Yeah but it helps if it works, it's perfectly capable of running essential programs without crashing/even working at all, and it does not have to think, you open it, and it's just there. Absolutely amazing.

[al Roumi]

Can't we all just get along?

LOL it would be nice wouldn't it!

[LeftEyeNine]

$136 plus tax for Win7 Home Premium in Turkey? That's ridiculous. There must be discounted version. Heck, you can always get a OED version with a USB cable if it comes down to that.

Don't be fooled by the retail price. That can't hold. Not when Apple is giving away OS X 10.6 for $30 to anybody who asks, and students are snapping up Win7 for shipping. No, that can't hold.

It doesn't.

This is Turkey and we have to pay as much as you do. Windows Vista Home Premium Turkish. ~115 USD + KDV.

We should stop using vaaaaaayyyyyreeeeeeez0rz.

Edit: Since I'd really like to keep Windows XP mode in hand, I'd like to have Windows 7 Professional.

Stop using viiiiiriiiiiiiiz, ohkay ?

FYI, on my tight budget, I own original copies of Orange Box, FM '09, Sacred 2 and Fallout series from GOG.com.

[KukriKhan]

Did you ever use Windows ME from Windows 98?

Microsoft uses the formulae of "Good, Bad, Good, Bad, Good".

LOL. That's been how I've cycled through OS's too. The last OS I thought I understood was W95. I missed 98 & 98SE, got ME (worked fine) then Vista (working OK for me; I don't comprehend Fragony's issues; something very bad happening there).

I know it's early days, but does anyone hold the opinion (or read one) that upgrading to W7 is a "must have"? I'd like to squeeze another year and a half out of this Vista rig I'm currently running. Can I/ should I wait that long (summer 2011)?

[Lemur]

If it can run Vista it can run Win7, and 90% of the drivers will work without any alteration. (And because of the driver compatibility, most hardware makers are releasing Win7 drivers as fast as they can connect to FTP).

Win7 really is Vista Mark Two. It's lighter, leaner, less intrusive and more stable. I can't think of any reason not to upgrade, although I couldn't say if that makes it "must-have." Eye of the beholder and all of that.

[Beskar]

If you are a student, get the $30 student deal. That's all there is really.

If you have to pay the $200 whatever, yeah, I would wait as well.

[Lemur]

If you are a student, get the $30 student deal.

Or if you know a student. Or if you know anyone with a valid .edu email address (most Universities will provide you with one if you're an alum). Or if you know anyone who builds PCs and receives promotional versions and owes you a favor. Or if your workplace has a dual-license scheme and is upgrading.

There are many, many ways to get a valid copy without paying full retail.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

You can get professional as a student for $30. Basically go through the process for the home premium and look for a link that says "Does your university use Domains? Get Professional for $30!" or something like that.

Just ordered mine.

Question (might make a new thread for it if you guys aren't certain) but do you know the best way to install 7 onto a dual-boot computer that has Ubuntu and XP? I'm using GRUB and don't know how 7 deals with it and vice versa.

[al Roumi]

You can get professional as a student for $30. Basically go through the process for the home premium and look for a link that says "Does your university use Domains? Get Professional for $30!" or something like that.

Just ordered mine.

Question (might make a new thread for it if you guys aren't certain) but do you know the best way to install 7 onto a dual-boot computer that has Ubuntu and XP? I'm using GRUB and don't know how 7 deals with it and vice versa.

I don't know, but i'd say you are right to be careful -my data partition vanished when i did a custom instal on my XP partition... I'm not sure why either, although you do get the option to partition drives at one stage -not sure how the installer recognises existing partitions though.

[Fragony]

LOL. That's been how I've cycled through OS's too. The last OS I thought I understood was W95. I missed 98 & 98SE, got ME (worked fine) then Vista (working OK for me; I don't comprehend Fragony's issues; something very bad happening there).

I know it's early days, but does anyone hold the opinion (or read one) that upgrading to W7 is a "must have"? I'd like to squeeze another year and a half out of this Vista rig I'm currently running. Can I/ should I wait that long (summer 2011)?

Nerds took my lunchbag it has been ball ever since. that and I am a metroman, teehee ;p

[pevergreen]

"Harvey Norman launches Windows 7 sales"
Retail boss, Gerry Harvey, has personally sold the world's first retail copy of Windows 7. At midnight on June 21, Spiro Giokaris made the purchase in Sydney and became the world's first retail customer, shook hands with Harvey and smiled for the cameras.

Taken from ARN, Oct. 28 2009


The guy buying it looks like a dude with no job. Unshaven, long hair etc.

[TevashSzat]

On a somewhat divergent note, Microsoft was giving us $10 gift cards at UPenn if we basically stopped and listened to a quick Windows 7 sales pitch.

The sales pitch was expected but I didn't really pay too much attention to it since I really only wanted the gift card. Only after I got the card did I realize that it was for the For Your Entertainment online store.....which is a bummer to say the least....

[Lemur]

Only after I got the card did I realize that it was for the For Your Entertainment online store.....which is a bummer to say the least....

Harsh, dude, harsh.

In why-would-you-have-thought-different news, looks like you still need to run anti-virus software on that shiny Windows 7 box.

[Beskar]

Yeah, if you want backwards compatiability, that is the price you pay.

[Furunculus]

i have two licenses now for a grand total of £80.

got the full £50 version from Play

and used my alumni .ac.uk account to blag the £30 upgrade.

money well spent i reckon.

[The Stranger]

does windows7 support software that originally came out for XP? For example, can I still play the games I bought a few years ago on windows7?

Is it better than XP?

[Beskar]

does windows7 support software that originally came out for XP? For example, can I still play the games I bought a few years ago on windows7?

Is it better than XP?

Yes and Yes.

[Furunculus]

I upgraded my Vista64 gaming box to Windows 7 and i have to say; i like it. well worth £30.

I still have my full home premium license in its box, so i am now looking forward to building a new PC in april even more than previously.