Quote Originally Posted by Leodegar View Post
Does anybody know what triggers the negative diplomatic points for territorial expansion?
Obviously taking other nation's lands, but any ideas what and how exactly?

In 1725 in my Britain campaign I took the Canadian provinces from France, and Georgia and Cherokee Territory to adsorb the nine 13 Colonies, and finally I conquered three provinces in India.

Oh, and I have three protectorates (Mysore, Cherokee, and USA which emerged during my Indian wars in Virginia after it was taken by the Cherokee from the 13 Colonies, and then rebelled). Do protectorates count as territorial expansion?

Now my diplomatic relations with almost all nations suffer between -55 and -100 for expansion, which results in beeing on unfriendly or hostile terms with almost everybody. Only France really, really hates me with -221 for expansion, which seems pretty fair to me, as I stripped them of their possesions in Canada.

To me, my expansion after 25 years feels quite moderate and nothing to get all mad with me like all the AI buggers do... (What do they expect? It's total war, you know. Seems my comp has some serious pacifist inclinations )

So, if anybody happens to know something about the in-game mechanics or methods how to get less penalties for expansion (don't like to be the bad guy, hehe), feel free to post it here.
Well, once your province count is close to the grand long campaign goal, you're pretty unstoppable militarily and economically. So, it shouldn't come as a surprise other AI factions hate you. Actually, for fun end-game I would not mind -250 relationships with other AI factions as long as they acted in accordance with that -250 rating. The part that introduces boredom in the end-game is that AI factions at -250 rating DO NOT DO ANYTHING...

Part of the reason behind that passiveness might be the currently bugged inter-AI diplomacy. AI factions do not appear to be able to acquire ceasefires with other AI factions. Once they are at war, they are at war forever. So, despite everybody hating the player faction, AI is unable to form a diplomatic "anti-human" hate block because all AI factions are fighting each other...