Should BtSH call it quits?

**GeneralHankerchief** · 04-28-2009, 18:16

Having watched this PBM progress for a few months now, I'll be sad to see BtSH go. For a while this game was the most active and compelling one in the Throne Room, what with the saga of Eprius and of course all the great storylines that went with Cotta's meteoric rise. There's something about playing Rome that just makes it more... special... than any of the other factions. If you can keep it going, I personally would like to see it continue.

However, as players, you would know better than me. If there's just not enough players, then there's not enough players. I think a big part of this is the triumvirate of Blasio, Cotta, and Manius Claudius that always manages to be in the power roles. In my experience, I've found that competition makes for a more compelling and interactive game. So my suggestion is to incorporate all three Consul roles into one general one: Consul. Now, instead of having three ultra-powerful Senators shifting roles and working together, you suddenly have three of them gunning for the the top (and only) spot. All of a sudden, we have plotting. All of a sudden, you have players working harder, now not only trying to defeat the AI but one-up each other as well.

This is just the two cents of an outside observer, but I think with a bit of rule tweaking, BtSH still has some life left in it.

**/Bean\** · 04-28-2009, 18:35

To be honest, I'd be much more into restarting than continuing. We should take what we've learnt and initiate it from the beginning of the game, with new characters and plot lines, protocols of IC and OOC work, and someone to help Navarro. It's no fault of his, but he can't be expected to uphold all the different admin jobs by himself throughout the entire game.

**Cultured Drizzt fan** · 04-28-2009, 18:48

I am up for that, should be fun to start over from the begining. And If you guys need help, I am always free.

**Caius** · 04-28-2009, 19:37

I could be in for this game, but I am not sure. I will try to appear here if possible.

**mini** · 04-28-2009, 19:14

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Having watched this PBM progress for a few months now, I'll be sad to see BtSH go. For a while this game was the most active and compelling one in the Throne Room, what with the saga of Eprius and of course all the great storylines that went with Cotta's meteoric rise. There's something about playing Rome that just makes it more... special... than any of the other factions. If you can keep it going, I personally would like to see it continue.

However, as players, you would know better than me. If there's just not enough players, then there's not enough players. I think a big part of this is the triumvirate of Blasio, Cotta, and Manius Claudius that always manages to be in the power roles. In my experience, I've found that competition makes for a more compelling and interactive game. So my suggestion is to incorporate all three Consul roles into one general one: Consul. Now, instead of having three ultra-powerful Senators shifting roles and working together, you suddenly have three of them gunning for the the top (and only) spot. All of a sudden, we have plotting. All of a sudden, you have players working harder, now not only trying to defeat the AI but one-up each other as well.

This is just the two cents of an outside observer, but I think with a bit of rule tweaking, BtSH still has some life left in it.

Well

I reformed the whole ranking system and basically created an entire new cursus honorum, which would work great with a sufficient player base.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 04-28-2009, 19:15

Agreed, but the problem is we have to work with what we have. Right now, you guys don't have the base necessary for the reforms to be in full effect.

**TinCow** · 04-28-2009, 19:42

It's worth noting that there are currently THREE EB-based PBMs going on. That is surely diluting the player-base a good deal. If you all assembled into a single game, you'd probably be able to sustain more momentum for a longer period. I understand that not everyone wants to play the factions chosen in the other games, but that's what compromise is all about. LotR's faction was decided based on a poll, and we all played what the majority wanted to play, even though a good number of us weren't keen on Byzantium.

**Iskander 3.1** · 04-28-2009, 20:12

I agree that we should end this on a high note. Everyone here has made some good points, and I think that it would be best to wait a little while before implementing a new EB PBM. Maybe have a few people put their heads together and decide what might be best, and after a month or so we could see if there's enough interest to launch a new game.

**Cultured Drizzt fan** · 04-28-2009, 20:32

yeah, we have three diffrent pbms at the moment, and I can see how that many could cause problems. and I think taking a few months hiatus should be good, we might come back to find a batch of new people intrested in the game. (of course WotB will still be here, and we always need to new players! shameless advertisment I know, but its a council session and I think we have hardly had 10 posts in it.... and my own personal council hasnt had a response yet. hint hint mini, iskander and everyone)