Bug List (Post Patch #3)

**Fisherking** · 04-29-2009, 19:21

New patch, new bug list.

**Slaists** · 04-29-2009, 19:32

BUGS

-- CTD on turn end: ok, I played with France to 1705: all was well (I mean, really well... an engaging campaign, to a degree not seen before in TE series)... until campaign just would start CTD un loading the "next turn" (after all factions have been processed). i tried to reload the campaign from two turns before the crash: still the same deal, it would crash in winter of 1705... i never had a crash like this before the patch of today. very disappointing.

-- a small thing: if one builds the first road upgrade (the one for 750), it it displays as 'negative promised wealth' (grayed out wealth) increment in the province summary on the turn it's qued. once it's built, the province wealth increase display is correct.

-- another small thing: the battle advisor loop. before the patch that man was driving me nuts with his inspirational "artillery cannot be deployed in forested areas" advice repeated no fail before every battle... After the patch, the advisor seemed random again. Well, for the first 5 battles or so. After that: back to "artillery cannot be deployed in forested areas"...

-- CTD in harbors: it seems, nothing has been fixed in that department. Disembarking a unit in Jamaica harbor results in a CTD. If not right away then after clicking on the unit in the harbor...

-- Queens love their mistresses... I had no idea all British queens were lesbians.

-- Cavalry getting stuck entering/exiting forts: if you ride a unit of cavalry in/out from a fort a few riders get stuck on one side of the gate (usually inside) rendering the whole outfit useless. This was present before the patch, and was not fixed. Shouldn't be that hard to fix given that there was no issue like that in MTW2, RTW.

-- AI Sweden: slow on turn end: this was another thing that was present before the patch. About 20/30 years in the game, Swedish AI starts to take forever (a few minutes at times with no AI movement show option) to make decisions for its turn. Before the patch it seemed to be caused by its inability to decide what to do with the land-bridge near Denmark. Once I took Denmark from them (before the patch): Swedes started to make decisions much faster. In my post-patch game, Swedes have not taken Denmark yet though. So, I am not sure what the problem is. They do have about a dozen small (2-3 unit) outfits surrounding Stockholm. All dug in, not having been moved for years...

-- Land bridges: the AI still does not seem to be able to use those consistently. Innuit would declare war on me, but no Innuit armies would show up in Newfoundland for decades. I can see the same near Gibraltar. Spanish would be at war with Morocco with stacks sitting in Gibraltar, seething in anger but not being able to cross. Then, all of a sudden, a couple decades after DOW one of the stacks would all of a sudden march across... Nothing has changed in this department unfortunately.

-- Trade theater passivity: the AI still does not attack ships on anchors in trade theaters: neither the pirates nor the enemy fleets.

-- Trade income fluctuations: Sometimes, adding an Indiaman to a trading stack sitting on an anchor results in total trade revenue dropping (considerably at times...). Note, I did not render the whole trading stack invalid by changing its composition while it was on the anchor; rather I took the whole fleet off the anchor, added a ship and put the stack back on. Not sure, maybe it's a result of reshuffling the goods between trading partners since the total trade output changes and assigning the goods to trade partners whose harbors are blocked.

-- Adding a trade partner results in total trade revenue drop: for example, in mid game, I add Sweden as my trade partner. As soon as I do that, my total trade revenue drops by 3000... Went into the trade tab to discover that the engine had reshuffled a load of goods from my other trade partners to Sweden, which is supposedly a better decision as long as their ports are not blockaded. Well, the trick was: Swedish port was being blockaded by the Danish. So, I am not sure if this is a bug or just a feature with messed up design.

-- Autoresolve unrealistic: not sure if this is a bug or a messed up feature too. Autoresolve assigns very unrealistic losses to the attacker if one autoresolves a battle in which remains of a defeated enemy army are 'cleaned up'. The pre-battle odds show there being practically zero chance for an AI win. Autoresolve assigns a win the attacking player but with huge, unrealistic losses, forcing to manually play foregone conclusion cleanups. Example: As British, I fight a big battle with the Iroquois and defeat them. After the battle, 4 (not 4 units, but literally, 4 riders) North American lancers and 10 medicine men retreat deeper into my territory. Fine, I send a few militia units residing in the near-by town to clean up the mess. Pre-battle screen shows that my larger army wants to join in the battle too; odds for the AI to win: practically nil. Autoresolve results in my win, but the militia units suffer about a 60 men loss. Fine, those 14 indians must have been real killers... The nasty surprise came when I checked the main stack: my autoresolve losses there were worth about 3000 florins. It seemed, those 14 must have been true Spartans... So, advice: until the fix it (if they will) make sure you clean up with cheap troops and do not have any big armies near-by.

-- Light Infantry facing in the wrong direction: for some reason they prefer to look 'sideways' rather than straight on... Even when ordered to shoot straight at the target right in front of them, they frequently prefer to turn their side to the target (and not shoot)...

-- Chasseurs Britaniques don't stop firing: I have not used other light infantry so I am not sure if that is true for them too, but the British foreign light infantry (Chasseur Britanique if I'm not mistaken in spelling) does not stop firing when the enemy leaves their range. Toggling autofire off or pressing backspace does not solve the issue: they still fire. Only moving the unit a bit stops that nonsense. If one does not play close attention to them: they can lose ammo in no time.

-- Line Infantry: when firing by rank, frequently they miss the 'shooting bit'... The first row would go on their knee to reload; the second row is supposed to shoot and then go down: instead, they just go down to their knee... same for the third row...& recycle starting with the first row. It looks as if they're doing squat exercises... It does not happen always though, but frequently enough to be annoying.

-- Line Infantry behind a fence: I am yet to see them shoot... At most ONE guy would get up and fire a bullet once in a while, while the rest just sit and go through non-stop reloading exercise...

-- Diplomacy: it has happened to me a couple times. I propose a ceasefire to a nation in exchange for let's say 500 ducats. They come back with a proposal in which they offer ceasefire +9000 ducats... The faction that did that was Russia.

-- Camels scared of camels: if one attacks a unit of camels with camels, both sides display message "horses scared...", no comment...

-- Battle map, clicking on unit cards that belong to a group: Maybe it's just me, but I find clicking on unit cards all too frequently removes the unit from the group it belongs to.

-- Reinforcements entering the battlefield sometimes have some soldiers stuck behind a boulder or something and, as a result, become unusable.

-- Charge pathing. This one is quite annoying actually. If ordered to charge (or shoot at) an enemy unit, player units frequently turn sideways (opening flank to the enemy) and just wander off into the map...

-- Battle replay sound problem. I recorded a couple battle replays. The battle sound was missing in the replay except for very loud mouse click recordings... Battle sound appeared only at the very end of the recording, I believe from the point when the end-battle pop-up shows up and one selects to continue.

-- Trade blockades: regardless how many trade ports a country's mainland provinces have if any of mainland ports get blockaded, maritime trade stops and does no reroute to other ports. Similarly, if a player has a multitude of North American (for example) provinces and a single pirate ship blockades the port of a single Carribean island, ALL of North American trade gets stopped (as indicated on the trade goods tab). It does not make any logical sense: since all other North American harbors are still open. Not sure if this is an undocumented feature or a bug. For the lack of logic to it, it seems like a bug.

NOT BUGS

-- Industrial Buildings do not cause unrest (from industrialization): this seems to be specific to constitutional monarchies. Does not make much sense (not having the lower class to worry about), but it appears to be a feature.

-- Transylvanian rebels: not really a bug, but still questionable. The rebels that spawn in Transylvania are labeled "Slav Rebels". Transylvania at the time had Magyar (Hungarian) nobles and Romanian peasants. Hungarian belongs to the Finn-Ugric language family whereas Romanian is a Romance language with strong latin roots same as Italian. So, why Slav rebels?

-- Russian last name problem: A minor thing, but it still looks sloppy. In Russian, last names can take two gender forms: female and male. For some reason, CA has assigned female last name forms (ending in '-va') to many male characters in the government and among the agents... On the same token, I find it highly unlikely XVIII century Russian army would address anyone with "Da, ser" (Yes, sir). "Ser" is used in Russian for situations translated from English (if there is a reference to "sir" in the original) not in the native speach.

**Beskar** · 04-29-2009, 20:04

I thought "I know, I will start a new game! I will play as Russia, so I can observe the Naval units in action".

So I put it as VH/VH like I do, then I noticed that I was basically bankrupt, so I thought "oh, must be more expensive, I will go Easy/Easy to cancel out the costs" and still no money.

Well, here was the issue, I get no money from taxes.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Edit:

How to fix the problem -
Remove all mod files and delete the startpos.esf file and the patch.pack file.
Delete The Creative Assembly user data folder
Use Steam, properties > verify installation
Wait
Profit.

**Slaists** · 04-29-2009, 20:13

somebody suggested, reinstalling the patch fixes this.

**Beskar** · 04-29-2009, 20:20

-nt

**Fwapper** · 04-29-2009, 20:34

Completing a campaign on hard still doesn't get you the 'Strategic Genius' achievement on Steam.

**Seyavash** · 04-30-2009, 04:11

Not entirely sure if this is a bug or my error, but in cleaning up my save games I deleted the auto save. now the game is not saving at the end of the turn. I cannot find an option to turn it back on either.

I assumed that a new auto save would be created with a new campaign. guess not.

update: It doesn't seem to be a bug after all. next day I went to load and the auto save game was there. weird but it is working so I am not sure what went wrong before.

**Dayve** · 04-30-2009, 11:05

I don't think unit costs have been increased, they're all showing the same recruitment and upkeep costs from the previous version for me. I'm also making just as much (if not more) money as GB in the first 5 years as always, but not doing anything differently, so i think there's an issue with the new unit costs.

There's also the hull strength of ships issue, but Jack already said they're fixing that.

**TB666** · 04-30-2009, 11:35

The Land Battle AI seems to be far more interested in moving their troops around and avoiding combat.
And if you get in range they usually do a bayonet charge instead of just firing.
It seems to vary depending on your troop selection however if you move 2 units of line infantry up against their entire army of line infantry, they should not run away or just charge with a bayonet.

**Servius** · 04-30-2009, 14:22

No Tobacco being exported from Cuba bug
While I have not yet bumped into the problem I've heard others have where a city doesn't grant any revenue, even when taxes are enabled, I am experiencing a situation where I have tobacco plantations in Cuba, a trade port there, unblocked trade lanes, but no coffee shows up in London for export. I know this is different from how it used to be, but I can't be sure if it's a bug or if something changed with the way trade works. Perhaps I have to upgrade the trade port in order to allow the export of more than just 1 good. Not sure yet, but thought I should metion this.

EDIT: SOLVED
Hang on. There's a new tool tip in Cuba's capital window that says I need to upgrade my Trade Port in order to export the additional goods I'm producing. Let me see if that fixes it... Yes, it did. For exporting regions, you now need 1 trade route / building that creates a trade good.

**mmk** · 04-30-2009, 15:40

Still having issues with trade.

Playing as GB, owning Jamaica, Bahamas and the Winward Islands. Trade ports in all three regions.
Pirates are blocking Winward harbour - all trade from the Americas is interrupted. Doesn´t seem quite right to me, as trade from the Bahamas and Jamaica is not taking place via Winward Islands.

**Slaists** · 04-30-2009, 14:20

Originally Posted by Dayve

I don't think unit costs have been increased, they're all showing the same recruitment and upkeep costs from the previous version for me. I'm also making just as much (if not more) money as GB in the first 5 years as always, but not doing anything differently, so i think there's an issue with the new unit costs.

There's also the hull strength of ships issue, but Jack already said they're fixing that.

I think, the main new money aspect is that there is 'admin' cost in terms of reduced tax%. The more provinces in a theater you own, the higher is the 'admin penalty' - the lower your tax%.

**Babblearossa** · 04-30-2009, 19:15

Originally Posted by Dayve

I don't think unit costs have been increased, they're all showing the same recruitment and upkeep costs from the previous version for me. I'm also making just as much (if not more) money as GB in the first 5 years as always, but not doing anything differently, so i think there's an issue with the new unit costs.

There's also the hull strength of ships issue, but Jack already said they're fixing that.

Starting a new game as britain on H/H cost to recruit a line infantry was 991/290. For a fourth rate
1720/460. costs for lowest level units didn't change all that much. Maybe check beskars post above if you don't see those costs.

what's the hull strength issue? I saw jack posted that it was actually displaying correctly now whereas it was bugged prior to patch, but in either case the actual strength remains the same. Or is there a new issue?

**Marquis of Roland** · 04-30-2009, 19:22

Small sound bug during battles: the soundbit for unpausing the game is extremely loud. Whenever I unpause there is about a 2 second lag. I don't know if these two are related. Did not happen pre-patch. Seems like the rest of the sound problems from before have been fixed, I also love the new sounds that were added, very nice.

**Servius** · 04-30-2009, 22:12

Trade Bug #1
Game is only tracking 9 trade partners. I have 11. The Diplomacy screen shows all 11 trade partners. The Trade screen only shows 9. The total Trade Revenue shown at the bottom of the Trade screen is the sum of the 9 trade partners shown. Canceling one of the 9 displayed trade partnerships does not make either of the missing two show up, it just reduces the number displayed trade relationships to 8. My trade revenue dropped when I added the 2 most recent parters (Genoa and Venice) because their relationships were worth less than the 2 they made disappear (Ottoman and Mughal).

EDIT 1
I had destroyed the trade port in Bristol, one of my earliest trade ports, and turned it into a shipyard. Since it was one of my earliest trade ports, and since my trade agreements with Mughal and Ottoman were two of my earliest trade partnerships, it's possible that destroying the trade port caused a bug where by I no longer had a functioning trade parternship with those two nations. It seems the bug may prevent other trade ports from picking up the slack.

EDIT 2
Destroying Bristol's shipyard and rebuilding the Trade Port did not resolve the problem. Canceling the trade agreements with Mughal and Ottoman, then obtaining them again did allow me to trade with them again, and for the revenue from those trade relationships to appear in the Trade window.

Trade Bug #2
The cumulative value for all trade partnerships shown in the Trade screen is more than the revenue shown under Trade Revenue on the National Summary page. Those two numbers should be the same, shouldn't they?

**Marquis of Roland** · 04-30-2009, 17:14

Prussia H/H

CTD when Courland attacks me on their turn with a 3/4 stack. I built a wooden fort on my previous turn and had 1/2 stack inside, when Courland's turn came up I had an opportunity to intercept from the fort and the game CTD on loading screen. Reloaded game and did not build fort, intercepted Courland on their turn with no CTD.

When I switch theatres the graphics get crazy; flashing color changes and some polygons pop out, but when I switch back to Europe it goes away after awhile. I don't know if this is due to the patch or the new Nvidia driver I just downloaded. Geforce 8800gts, and the new driver is 182.50.

Plus what everyone else said about trade.

**A Very Super Market** · 04-30-2009, 17:57

If you look at the trade route on the map, you can see that you still have trade going through other unblockaded ports. I think the trade system should be more in-depth because of that, since we have no way of knowing the true value of our trade routes without surfing around the campaign map and adding up the numbers ourselves.

**Ethelred Unread** · 05-02-2009, 09:21

Annoying new CTD where didn'd exist before! Wail!

Can select all options from screens except "Grand Campaign". When I do I get a CTD "Empire has stopped working"

I can play custom, RTI & MP OK.

No mods installed. I've tried re-installing from game discs, and re d/l from steam no joy. Like an idiot I deleted my campaign game saves and started a new RTI campaign directly after the update.

Updated drivers etc.

DxDIag:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**Ethelred Unread** · 05-03-2009, 10:39

Originally Posted by Ethelred Unread

Annoying new CTD where didn'd exist before! Wail!

Can select all options from screens except "Grand Campaign". When I do I get a CTD "Empire has stopped working"

I can play custom, RTI & MP OK.

No mods installed. I've tried re-installing from game discs, and re d/l from steam no joy. Like an idiot I deleted my campaign game saves and started a new RTI campaign directly after the update.

Updated drivers etc.

DxDIag:

Ahaha! Fixed it - read at TWC centre someone had the same and had to go into RTI to change battle time to 60 mins - now works OK.

**Sheogorath** · 05-03-2009, 11:36

Whelp...the game freezes at the launch screen for me, now.

Either that or it's taking half an hour to load.

**Fisherking** · 05-03-2009, 11:48

I don’t know if it has been brought up already but I have not been able to combine fleets if they both have armies aboard.

Not full armies, but just troops. In order to have one fleet with one army you have to land units and reload them onto the ships.

Annoying!! It could also be dangerous if the fleets are attacked and a one ship fleet with troops is sunk.

**Beskar** · 05-03-2009, 15:35

Originally Posted by Sheogorath

Whelp...the game freezes at the launch screen for me, now.

Either that or it's taking half an hour to load.

I had that. Delete your userdata folder (back up saved game files if you want to keep them)

**Sheogorath** · 05-03-2009, 16:40

Originally Posted by Beskar

I had that. Delete your userdata folder (back up saved game files if you want to keep them)

Ah, alright. I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion

**al Roumi** · 05-06-2009, 11:19

Puckle Guns are still the best friend of those with a propensity for razing settlements: they take 1% off the building health with every single bullet impact... Townhalls crumble in 2-3 volleys, this clearly MUST be a bug -unless mr Puckle also invented depleted uranium projectiles for use in persuading buildings of the benefits of rubble...

**Dead Guy** · 05-07-2009, 10:09

Yesterday I had a weird happening.

I was shipping a gentleman from india to america, the fleet arrived with the gentleman aboard but now another gentleman had spawned on an island with no school, so I decide to pick him up also. I pick him up from the shore, not a dock. Two agents on the fleet now, both show properly in the unit card thingie. When i reach the island with the school I go into the dock there and unload, only one agent unloads and the other is no longer in the fleet, nor is he in the docks! The following turn the agent turned up again, with the fleet that was now once more at sea!

**Turbosatan** · 05-07-2009, 10:59

New one on me -- apologies if this is an inappropriate place to put it, mea culpa -- but in the last twenty-four hours I've noticed the following post-battle:

Numbers of survivors per unit after a played-through battle are rather, er, off: Infantry units that received casualties now have the numbers of men that the cavalry & artillery should have & vice versa. For instance, my general's bodyguard now has sixty-eight men despite receiving two casualties, & a howitzer unit has seventy-five men; infantry units that should have these numbers left have the troop numbers of the artillery & cavalry (eighteen & twenty-two respectively).

Also, in a different campaign, post-battle a unit of dragoons had zero (yes, 0) men left, yet their unit card still shows in the stack & is selectable & replenishable (is that a word?).

It hasn't crashed the game (yet) but I have a horrible feeling it's just about to.

Latest patch, no mods at all ever installed. Will try & get a screenie to confirm.

Anyone else ever had this?

Nota bene: this is not an auto-resolve issue. This is after a 3D battle, & has occurred separately (though not identically) in two different campaigns.

**Elmar Bijlsma** · 05-07-2009, 16:33

Using Darth Mod Commander I had a unit of dragoons nearly wiped out. Instead of the roughly ten survivors of four chevron and a single star experience at the end of the battle I ended up with three hundred and sixty-three troopers with no experience. I think they adopted the XP and numbers of an opposing unit of Ottomans or something.
Completely weird.

**anweRU** · 05-07-2009, 17:16

The last two bugs posted above happened pre-patch as well. Did you have a reinforcing stack with a unit that couldn't make it to the battlefield during battle - most commonly a saker or demi-cannon in a reinforcing stack?

That was the case for me any time I came across the bug you guys are reporting. It swaps the men among the units. e.g. my line inf. went down to 18 men, and my demi-cannons to 104 men!

**Slaists** · 05-07-2009, 18:01

Originally Posted by anweRU

The last two bugs posted above happened pre-patch as well. Did you have a reinforcing stack with a unit that couldn't make it to the battlefield during battle - most commonly a saker or demi-cannon in a reinforcing stack?

That was the case for me any time I came across the bug you guys are reporting. It swaps the men among the units. e.g. my line inf. went down to 18 men, and my demi-cannons to 104 men!

Well, I think, the goal of a thread like this is to identify the bugs that are still in the game: no matter, whether they were caused by the new patch or not fixed by the new patch.

**Turbosatan** · 05-08-2009, 09:56

Originally Posted by anweRU

The last two bugs posted above happened pre-patch as well. Did you have a reinforcing stack with a unit that couldn't make it to the battlefield during battle - most commonly a saker or demi-cannon in a reinforcing stack?

That was the case for me any time I came across the bug you guys are reporting. It swaps the men among the units. e.g. my line inf. went down to 18 men, and my demi-cannons to 104 men!

Hey dude.

Something like that, except in this case the AI attacked my "reinforcing stack" of two infantry units, driving a wedge between this stack & my main army stack (I always try & bring a reinforcing stack of foot-sloggers along when I perform a major assault!).

So the issue could be as you say when multiple stacks are involved in a battle, the casualties end up going weird.

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