Evolution v Creationism

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yawn the old randrom diety stories are fun to make up but they don't help much, nobody has felt the fiery presence of the leprechaun god.

I have. I am witness to the awesome power of His Lucky Charms. I know it to be true. Random Deities beat randrom diety any day of the week. And it's not random, it's LUCKY. There's a difference.

One, two, three, four, I declare a holy war!

[Rhyfelwyr]

I have. I am witness to the awesome power of His Lucky Charms. I know it to be true. Random Deities beat randrom diety any day of the week. And it's not random, it's LUCKY. There's a difference.

One, two, three, four, I declare a holy war!

If you were being genuine, there would be no reason not to go with it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have already declared a Chee-had against the infidel. However, just like in other religions, when you declare a Chee-had, it is instead an inner, spiritual struggle. We fight using our minds.

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[Rhyfelwyr]

I have already declared a Chee-had against the infidel. However, just like in other religions, when you declare a Chee-had, it is instead an inner, spiritual struggle. We fight using our minds.

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(Psychic powers)

I hope you haven't abandoned the fiery little leprechaun god.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Pizza, you have some strange beliefs

[Askthepizzaguy]

I hope you haven't abandoned the fiery little leprechaun god.

HE ABANDONED ME FIRST!!! I leave him messages on his answering machine saying things like:

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"Hi, it's the pizzaguy. Love that green outfit. What are you doing Saturday Night? By the way, can you please let my local sports team win the pennant? Thanks. -Amen"

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"Hey it's me again. I'm sorry I forgot to add that I'd really love to win the lottery. Could you make that happen? Thanks. -Amen

Oh, PS- where does life begin?"

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"Hello Leprechaun. it's me, Pizzaguy. I am doing some soul searching and I want to know why you created Free Will and Evil and also a place to punish people for using their Free Will to create Evil even though you're infinitely compassionate and the one responsible for designing us intelligently. Thanks. -Amen"

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"Hey it's me. Why don't you ever return my phone calls? I mean, what's up with that? -Amen"

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"Ok, I'm really starting to get ticked off now. I don't treat you so coldly. Haven't I been a devoted worshiper ever since I converted to the faith? Be a nice, friendly God and talk to me or I'll convert to Invisible Pink Unicorn Religion or the Flying Spaghetti Monsterism."

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"Ok sorry about the last phone call... I was feeling all stressed out. Will you forgive me? Love you. Kisses."

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"Quick question... why do we have vestigial organs?"

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"You still haven't answered my question as to where life begins."

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"How come people are gay if they choose to be gay and it makes them unhappy to be different and to be persecuted? Wouldn't they just switch back? And why would they be born gay if you created them in your own image but you also say that it is a sin?"

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"What should we do about underage women being forced to marry against their will in other cultures? What gives us the moral right to intervene?"

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"I saw you on a box of Lucky Charms today. I LOL'ed!"

As you can see, since he doesn't return my phone calls, he abandoned me first. Or he's dead. But the important thing is that even though he doesn't talk to me, I continue to pray to him and ask him to change his Divine Plan, even though it wouldn't be much of a Divine Plan if he changed it to suit my whims.

Argumentum ad Hominem with the sub fallacy; Refutation by Caricature.

Much of the religious argument against evolution comes from the argument from ignorance. See also "God of the Gaps".

[Rhyfelwyr]

Heh, well Yahweh is very real to me, in everything I do. It follows that since the message of the New Testament is so real to me, so is that of the Old Testament, Jesus was fulfilling those scriptures after all. Plus, you've got to admit, Daniel didn't do bad predicting the year of Jesus' death, and all the prophecies concerning Israel etc.

On a side note, if you were comparing your prayer to the Christian version, it's not quite like that. Trying to work through prayer is like trying to do stuff in the Matrix - Jesus says you have to know your prayer will be answered, otherwise you were not in accordance with God's will in the first place! Stop trying to hit me and hit me... see what I mean?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I always knew Christianity was like the Matrix. Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm just having fun, I believe that the real arguments have been passed back and forth, and ultimately since Creationism is a religious argument not based upon science but upon Scripture, there is nothing that can be said to change one's mind.



To call it a debate is silly because there is one side of the issue which won't budge regardless of evidence or argument, if it is based upon religion, because religion requires faith and faith isn't really evidence, and is considered superior to evidence by the faithful. I'm willing to discuss the real facts, but there is no alternative theory at the moment grounded in science and based upon evidence. There is only religion and skepticism. Skepticism I buy, because that is simply the position that we cannot know. However, even then, one should not totally dismiss evidence. As for religion, it hasn't advanced our knowledge of the universe, only our belief in aspects of it, and beyond, so they are different unrelated things.

As for prayer, in all honesty it can't hurt. However, it shouldn't be relied upon instead of medicine, for example.

Argumentum ad Hominem Tu Quoque

You win the argument by default because your vocabulary is superior to my own. Curse my distaste of Latin!

[Sigurd]

Much of the religious argument against evolution comes from the argument from ignorance. See also "God of the Gaps".

Argumentum ad Hominem Tu Quoque