Genetic structure of the Balkan nations.

**Sarmatian** · 05-23-2009, 20:51

It seems that research by Igenea (genealogy research institute from Switzerland) is slap in the face to many nationalists in the Balkans. Many racial theories, held dear by some nationalists were proved wrong. For example, Albanians are definitely not descendants of the Illyrians, at least not more than some other Balkan nations. Reawakened descendants of Megas Alexandros (Macedonians, population of FYROM) have reasons to be pleased

, they were actually proven to draw their roots from Ancient Macedonians. Igenea is supposedly one of the top European genealogy research institutes...

Serbia

Slavs 30%
Illyrians 21%
Teutons (Germanic) 18%
Celts 14%
Phoenicians (Semitic) 9%
Hellenes 6%
Vikings! 2% (COOL!)

FYROM

Ancient Macedonians 30%
Teutons 20%
Hellenes 15%
Slavs 15%
Illyrians 10%
Huns 5%
Phoenicians 5%

Croatia

Illyrians 34%
Slavs 20%
Celts 18%
Teutons 12%
Phoenicians 8%
Hellenes 8%

Bulgaria

Thracians 49%
Hellenes 15%
Slavs 15%
Antic Macedonians 11%
Phoenician 8%

Bosnia & Herzegovina

Illyrians 40%
Teutons 20%
Celts 15%
Slavs 15%
Huns 6%
Thracians 4%

Albanians

Illyrians 30%
Slavs 20%
Thracians 18%
Phoenicians 16%
Hellenes 14%
Vikings 2%

According to Igenea, the most mixed "Balkan" nation are Turks. Beside Turkish, they have Arabic, Slavic, Hellenic, Teutonic, Berber and various other genes... The most Slavic nation in terms of genes are Russians. Population of Germany, to my great surprise is not very much Teutonic, most of the genes are Celtic (45%), Teutonic (25%), Slavic (20%) and Jewish (10%)...

I'm not really trying to make any point with this. I just found the research interesting and though I'd share and discuss it here with you guys...

**Rhyfelwyr** · 05-23-2009, 20:56

Interesting stuff, I'm surprised at the noticable percentages of Celtic and Phoenician blood, how did that get there?

Maybe this will make some people consider the nasty ethnic nationalism that goes on there. Then again, these things seems best left to die natural deaths.

**KarlXII** · 05-23-2009, 21:09

Wow, science proved ethnic nationalists wrong, eh?

**Adrian II** · 05-23-2009, 21:23

Originally Posted by KarlXII

Wow, science proved ethnic nationalists wrong, eh?

Yeah. So what's the DYS-marker for nationalists? We could use it to isolate all of the world's nationalists and put them in a reservation.

No wait, that would be ethnic cleansing.

**KarlXII** · 05-23-2009, 21:26

Originally Posted by Adrian II

Yeah. So what's the DYS-marker for nationalists? We could use it to isolate all of the world's nationalists and put them in a reservation.

No wait, that would be ethnic cleansing.

Off topic, but why did you remove that offensive piece of Mohammed? Have at you!

**Adrian II** · 05-23-2009, 21:30

Originally Posted by KarlXII

Off topic, but why did you remove that offensive piece of Mohammed? Have at you!

Because I found something much more offensive in Herod: the truth.

And dontcha tell me it doesn't hurt. Ouch! Ow!

**Aemilius Paulus** · 05-23-2009, 21:32

By Phoenicians do they mean Jews

??

Well, they are Semites, and there is no way that there is a lack of a significant Jewish population in the Balkans. After all, there is a bit of Jews in every European country, whether pure-blooded or mixed.

**HoreTore** · 05-23-2009, 21:44

HAH!

Another two countries on our list of countries we've raped!!

**Sarmatian** · 05-23-2009, 21:17

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

Interesting stuff, I'm surprised at the noticable percentages of Celtic and Phoenician blood, how did that get there?

Maybe this will make some people consider the nasty ethnic nationalism that goes on there. Then again, these things seems best left to die natural deaths.

I'm not surprised by Celtic, Celts penetrated relatively deep in the Balkans before they were driven out by Romans. Modern day Belgrade was actually founded by the Celts and named Sindidun and renamed Singidunum by the Romans later...

Phoenicians, I don't know, I guess as a seafaring nation they got to spread their genes around. Just a note, research for Serbia includes Montenegro, since samples were taken when Serbia and Montenegro were still one country.

**Cronos Impera** · 05-23-2009, 21:10

Oddly my country's haplogroups are as it follows.
E1B1B 38 %
R1A 29 %
R1B 25 %
I2A 8 %

And the Indigenous people are:
Slav 29 %
Finno-Ugrer 21 %
Teuton 20 %
Celtic 18 %
Illyrian 12 %

That means I'm 21% hungarian, 20% German and 20% Albanian?

Unfortunately, iGENEA doesn't provide info regarding the way data was gathered on their front-page so I assume these are not correct statistics.