Quote Originally Posted by Che Roriniho View Post
What a lot of words. I'm too tired to read them, so sorry if this is has been mentioned before: https://www.youtube.com/view_play_li...3481305829426D. Rhy, watch that. It's mainly aimed at YECs, but the general idea comes accross. You should learn a lot from it.

Okay. So what I have gleamed from scanning the past 2 pages is that the Creationists among seem to have very little knowledge of scientific theory, combined with a good dose of Argumentam ad ingorantiumum, Argumentum ad verecundiam, and enough Straw Men to fill Ohio.

They also tend to be religious, which is yet another logical fallacy, unfortunately I am unable to remember what this fallacy is called, but it's the one where it is dependent on an outside condition of the arguer to be true, as opposed to being uncaring as to the arguer, as all arguments must if they are logically correct. Anyway, I'm sure someone will remind me.

Anyhoozle, unless something can be explained by process of natural law (or Occams Razor if you prefer), it is up to the theory maker (In this case creationalists) to provide the scientific explaination. Not our job to do your work.

So yeh, the ball is in your court creationalists. Evolution is as much natural Law as Magnetism or Gravity.

Oh, spoil sport!


Seamus Fermanagh, Oh, so now "God" created the Big Bang, huh?

I hope you were sarcastic in that post.

One question though: The christian religions have had to retreat against science for some couple of hundred years now.

Not without a fight, mind you, the church has always put up a valiant fight but lost in the long run.

So now you believe the church is forced to commit: "Ok, so science was right about everything and church was wrong about everything, but God still created the big bang!"

May I ask you, when WILL the church wave the white flag? Say we get scientifical answer to the big bang, will you have some other outpost to hide behind?

And mind you, we are, as I write, planning to send up technology to inspect the very beginning of the big bang.

Where is your next retreat?

"Ok, so science explained everything beyond the big bang, but still hasn't explored all dimensions. God is in one of these dimensions, I ASSURE YOU!".

Can you actually define the last religious retreat?