Are the west's morals self defeating?

[Furunculus]

You said no such thing and you know it.

so what, i want every bodies gov't to treat its citizens decently so i didn't think i had to specify an obvious truth, and at no point did i make any statement that indicated the opposite.

[HoreTore]

The LTTE is only around because the Sinhalese government destroyed Tamil society and culture, just as is the case of Hamas, I cannot blame them for what they are. The Sinhalese can blame themselves, luckily most Tamils (that I know at least) are very keen on peace. The International community should force the Sinhalese to accept the reality of Tamil self-rule, then the LTTE can be dealt with.

I am in no way saying that the Sri Lankan government isn't to blame for LTTE, but it remains a fact that the LTTE hunted down and killed other tamils during their rise to prominence, like the entire leadership of TELO, for example.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Let the Tamils and the Sri Lankans sort it out for themselves. It has relatively little relevance to our us or our situation at the moment.

[Tribesman]

You said no such thing and you know it.

But you must understand that some people make such stupid statements either regarding torture or in this case genocide that they find it impossible to defend those actual statements ...so you are left with a ridiculous

so what

[Furunculus]

what statements have i made on torture or genocide that are ridiculous?

off the top of my head -
on torture; i said that i agreed with effective interrogation measures, and recognised that barbaric torture methods were ineffective.
on genocide; i didn't say much at all, i was referring to the tigers as an organisation, not the tamils as a people.

go on, spit it out..................

"so what"

would that be tribesman debating tactic number three, or is their room for a fourth; deconstruct a statement to the point where it bears no resemblance to the context of the original sentence...........?

[Tribesman]

what statements have i made on torture or genocide that are ridiculous?

What statements have you made that are not?

[Furunculus]

wow, i might have to make a fifth rule which deals with the tendency to veer off into inanities.

there are two example above, the two you have already questioned, you might start with those.........

[Furunculus]

interesting article on the western social democratic consensus, from the point of view of a gay yank:
http://www.city-journal.org/2009/19_2_pim-fortuyn.html

[HoreTore]

Let the Tamils and the Sri Lankans sort it out for themselves. It has relatively little relevance to our us or our situation at the moment.

Yes, why should I care about other people than myself?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yes, why should I care about other people than myself?

You can care however much you like - but this isn't our fight. If you want to mediate talks, on the other hand, go right ahead. I don't want to see military involvement or aid, however, because this is a complex war which is none of our business.

[HoreTore]

You can care however much you like - but this isn't our fight. If you want to mediate talks, on the other hand, go right ahead. I don't want to see military involvement or aid, however, because this is a complex war which is none of our business.

Ah, I misunderstood you then.

My apologies.

[Furunculus]

bit OT, but an interesting account from an ex Tamil Tiger:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-soldiers.html