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[Csargo]

So, no one else thinks navarro is scum?

[Splitpersonality]

So no one else thinks chaotix is nuts?

[Csargo]

So no one else thinks chaotix is nuts?

Am I your alter-ego?

[Splitpersonality]

Or am I your splitpersonality?

[seireikhaan]

So, no one else thinks navarro is scum?

I wanna make a naughty post about me having your back right now, but I feel it will just go horribly wrong...

[Csargo]

I wanna make a naughty post about me having your back right now, but I feel it will just go horribly wrong...

Probably a wise decision.

[AggonyDuck]

Also there is a dispute between Populares and Optimums.

Which we can choose to ignore and instead work together to rid Rome of Tyrants. For Now:

Vote: Abstain

[Khazaar]

@Beskar: How did you decide which people to write? And why didn´t you write to everybody, if you wrote to 12 people there´s a big chance that you had mafia in there already...

[Andres]

Not sure how much I am allowed to say. Rules state I can't talk about "communicate by PM", I am guessing that includes the number.

Problem is, there are a few people I suspect of being power roles, the thing is, which was the killer by remember what pm/replies. However there is the rule on that. There is only one that comes to mind.

navarro951 is the only one with a number in his username.

Vote : navarro951

Can you post your pm conversation with Beskar, please?

[Beefy187]

navarro951 is the only one with a number in his username.

[Andres]

From those named by Beskar (as quoted by Sasaki), that is.

pevergreen, why did you vote Sasaki?

[LittleGrizzly]

Lol, Beefy care to confirm whether or not you had a conversation with Beskar, if not it would appear to be navarro...

*scratches head*

Vote Abstain for the moment... hopefully change to something meaningful in a few hours...

[Jolt]

Fellow Senators! It appears that yet again there have been murders tonight. It is clear that these will not halt until something is done with its vile perpretrators. Throughout this session, despite the flinging accusations that are common with last day, noble Ichigo has accused noble navarro of being a partizan, bent only on fulfilling the wishes of his master, whoever that may be, and contrary to the interests of the Republic. Though he has no clear argument to support his view both the behaviour of navarro and noble pevergreen have been extremely suspicious, but that doesn't prove anything. Still, not only due to that fact, but also due to the continual assassinations, I will no longer oppose Proscription measures, but I will not accuse someone I am not sure that is guilty.

Proscript: Abstain

Correct Vote Tally (I think):

Shinseikhaan: 1 (Chaotix)
pevergreen: 1 (Sasaki)
navarro: 3 (Ichigo, Khaan, Andres)
Ichigo: 1 (navarro)
Sasaki: 1 (pevergreen)

Abstain: 3 (AggonyDuck, LittleGrizzly, Jolt)

[Beskar]

Haha, I like Andres thinking. It could be reference to number in username or that part could just be a reply to (Beefy?) who wondered how many I asked and I was referring to the number I sent messages too, which would mean that wasn't the clue I was trying to drop. Unfortunately, I don't want to outwardly name my killer, as I could be wrong... but I left a clue in the message for those who would try to decipher it and want it as a tip.

@Khazaar: Basically, I randomly picked from usernames on the list which I would either had a neutral or positive relationship with from the list. Obviously, if I was trying to establish a network together, I had to metagame guess a little to who would might have complied. I keep the number small because if all 8 power roles got the message, my chances would have been far slimmer. Since 3 have been named, I will explain why I messaged them initially.

Pevergreen - He does the vanilla mod and seems a nice guy, he also tried to get me to be one of the infamous pevers too.
GeneralHankerchief - Swords of the Moon, we were both on the infamous innocent list and were the last two survivors at the time, so a slight possible kinship from that.
Navarro - Completely neutral relation with, as I haven't played a game with him before.

[ULC]

Vote: Abstain

I would like to hear much more from this Navarro first before we move to condemn him. The current evidence, in the light in which it was gathered, makes me highly suspicious of it's reliability.

[Andres]

Hm, Beskar could you be less cryptic and just FoS your suspect?

[Splitpersonality]

Numbers may not just refer to a username, there could be an alliance system that works between people by using numbers.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's one set up already.


i.e.

PM's back and forth

To person 1 from organizer: "I'd like to kill tonight, are you in?"

Person 1 back "Sure"

To person 2 from organizer: "I'd like to kill *name* tonight, we already have another person, let's call him number 1 for now, are you in?"

Et cetera.

At some stage, yes, all 4 conspirators would have to know names, but maybe someone slipped up and said a name with a number, something that someone could use to figure out (another PM recipient?)


All speculation of course

[Beskar]

Sorry Andres, I want to see if anyone picked up on it. I still want to have a little fun as it was the Last Night I was alive, after all.

[Andres]

Unvote : navarro951; vote : pevergreen

He seems scummier to me than navarro.

a) Why did you vote Sasaki; b) why did you insist that Beskar would tell you his faction?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

OK Back. wow, I now have no idea what the hell is going on....
so Vote: abstain, I would try and sort everything that just happened out, But I am tired as hell.

[Andres]

Sorry Andres, I want to see if anyone picked up on it. I still want to have a little fun as it was the Last Night I was alive, after all.

It would be more helpful if you'd just name your suspect instead of letting us waste time reading clues in your post that aren't there.

[woad&fangs]

vote: pevergreen for wanting to know beskar's faction.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ohh, for anyone who wants to know, both Tiberius of the drake, and I were contacted by Beskar. in fact night 2 he contacted me asking for help with a vigilante kill, but never sent the final details.

[Caius]

Tally.

Shinseikhaan: 1 (Chaotix)
pevergreen: 3 (Sasaki, Andres, W&f)
navarro: 2 (Ichigo, Khaan)
Ichigo: 1 (navarro)
Sasaki: 1 (pevergreen)
Abstain: 4 (AggonyDuck, LittleGrizzly, Jolt, YLC)

We are lacking evidence of pevergreen being mafia. Ichigo claims navarro to be mafia. Those clues are very weak to cast a vote. Vote:No Proscription

[johnhughthom]

Vote:Abstain

I just realised the difference between abstaining and voting for no lynching () and there is still nobody I am suspicious of.

[navarro951]

You kno what...I actually like to play these games and it seems everyone is bandwagoning or just voting to be funny. Ichigo voted for me...whatever.

Unvote: Ichigo, Vote: Abstain.

[Beskar]

There is the fact you demanded to know what faction I was.

[Csargo]

You kno what...I actually like to play these games and it seems everyone is bandwagoning or just voting to be funny. Ichigo voted for me...whatever.

Unvote: Ichigo, Vote: Abstain.

Anger... you've got two votes. Hardly a bandwagon. But why are you angry?

[navarro951]

There is the fact you demanded to know what faction I was.

Well you approached me in complete randomness, and with no backing. I wanted to at least know who you were from so that i would not end up an easy target if you have friends er sumthing in this game.

[navarro951]

Anger... you've got two votes. Hardly a bandwagon. But why are you angry?

Im not saying the bandwagon is on me, im saying everyone is voting for and giggles. No one is presenting any case to their vote. At least Beskar has his suspicions cuz he got killed. He approached all those people, and because i wanted to know what factions he was (actually hoping to befriend him) i am the bad guy.

Also, his response to me asking his allegiance was..."My allegiance is simply this, I am a friend of Rome and the Senate. You have nothing to fear from me as I will for the betterment of the people."

Now how am i supposed to take that and simply believe it? If i could of killed him wouldnt it of been that round? We hadnt spoke at all after that.