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Again, I apologize... I checked the message in school this morning, way after the date.
Originally Posted by Chaotix:
Nope, I have no cover pm to show you, but I cannot say the same for the mafia, as I am not technically one of them. They could have cover roles, or they could have investigation defense, which is one thing that I do have.
As for actions, I was blocking LittleGrizzly again- he can vouch for this, I suppose. He had guards again and there were still two kills, so I suppose that means he's really a Consul.
What do you mean with "I am not technically one of them"?Nope, I have no cover pm to show you, but I cannot say the same for the mafia, as I am not technically one of them. They could have cover roles, or they could have investigation defense, which is one thing that I do have.
As for actions, I was blocking LittleGrizzly again- he can vouch for this, I suppose. He had guards again and there were still two kills, so I suppose that means he's really a Consul.
Originally Posted by Andres:
What do you mean with "I am not technically one of them"?
Chaotix is some sort of quintuple agent, who's side is he really on? What do you mean with "I am not technically one of them"?
He alluded to so many things, I'm simply not sure anymore.
He's saying he has no cover role, but he's not sure if the mafia has them because he's not mafia :|
Originally Posted by TheFlax:
Chaotix is some sort of quintuple agent, who's side is he really on?
He alluded to so many things, I'm simply not sure anymore.
He claims role blocker. Rules don't say anything about a role blocker... Could be one of the secret roles, but there's more:Chaotix is some sort of quintuple agent, who's side is he really on?
He alluded to so many things, I'm simply not sure anymore.
Originally Posted by Chaotix:
I was blocking LittleGrizzly again- he can vouch for this, I suppose. He had guards again and there were still two kills, so I suppose that means he's really a Consul.
If he blocked LittleGrizzly then how could LittleGrizzly have ordered his lictors to protect him? This doesn't add up. If LittleGrizzly truly would have been blocked, then his protection would have failed.I was blocking LittleGrizzly again- he can vouch for this, I suppose. He had guards again and there were still two kills, so I suppose that means he's really a Consul.
LittleGrizzly, do the results of your night action mention anything unusual that hints towards the blocking of your night action?
Has Chaotix ever been ordered to block a townie from the townie groups, just to check his claim? Otherwise, he has the perfect fake role for being active at night: solo character doesn't need to be in a group...
Being blocked may allow him to see the abilities of whomever he is blocking, and possibly to accept it into his own. Sort of like how the woman at the beginning "blocked" whomever they blocked (my memory is hazy), maybe he blocks through a personal relation with the target.
This would explain why other actions would continue in someone's place, someone being blocked that is.
This would explain why other actions would continue in someone's place, someone being blocked that is.
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Who ever Caesar is... He has sense of humour
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I am told by my night results that I am well gaurded but they let the woman in...
My theory is my orders don't get blocked... as im simply telling my troops to stand gaurd... but if i tried to participate in some group action the block would be effective...
Thats the impression i get from my night results...
My theory is my orders don't get blocked... as im simply telling my troops to stand gaurd... but if i tried to participate in some group action the block would be effective...
Thats the impression i get from my night results...
Originally Posted by Andres:
He claims role blocker. Rules don't say anything about a role blocker... Could be one of the secret roles, but there's more:
If he blocked LittleGrizzly then how could LittleGrizzly have ordered his lictors to protect him? This doesn't add up. If LittleGrizzly truly would have been blocked, then his protection would have failed.
LittleGrizzly, do the results of your night action mention anything unusual that hints towards the blocking of your night action?
Has Chaotix ever been ordered to block a townie from the townie groups, just to check his claim? Otherwise, he has the perfect fake role for being active at night: solo character doesn't need to be in a group...
My blocking ability also has the added effect that if a player has guards assigned to him (and only in that way, I've discovered) I am able to share that player's guards for the night. From experience blocking other Praetors or Consuls, I've learned that if they try to send their guards to someone else, I do wind up blocking that. It's kind of like a double edged sword.He claims role blocker. Rules don't say anything about a role blocker... Could be one of the secret roles, but there's more:
If he blocked LittleGrizzly then how could LittleGrizzly have ordered his lictors to protect him? This doesn't add up. If LittleGrizzly truly would have been blocked, then his protection would have failed.
LittleGrizzly, do the results of your night action mention anything unusual that hints towards the blocking of your night action?
Has Chaotix ever been ordered to block a townie from the townie groups, just to check his claim? Otherwise, he has the perfect fake role for being active at night: solo character doesn't need to be in a group...
If you want, I can block a player who's using a group action tonight- just make sure that the group has only enough people so that if I block one person then it fails, if you want proof. Also, you may want to make sure it won't result in someone getting killed.
That, and I'd like to be protected myself if I'm going to do that, if possible. Mentioning that I'm going to block someone without guards is kind of like a death sentence if either mafia family wants to kill me, and my goal is to survive.
I'm going to be away for the next 24 hours or so, therefore I shall Vote: Abstain
Vote: Iskander
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Vote: Abstain as well.
Vote: Abstain as well.
we already located a number of seemingly trustworthy people via Sasaki's plan.
Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?
Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
we already located a number of seemingly trustworthy people via Sasaki's plan.
Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?
Who are these people?we already located a number of seemingly trustworthy people via Sasaki's plan.
Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
we already located a number of seemingly trustworthy people via Sasaki's plan.
Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?
No we haven't. We haven't located any trustworthy people. we already located a number of seemingly trustworthy people via Sasaki's plan.
Why are we not voting to lynch one of the uncleared people?
This bears repeating:
The mafia have cover pm's, someone having an ability (like investigation) that another townie has is no proof of innocence.
The mafia only need one of them to kill on a night, not three, leaving the others free to participate in townie groups.
The last thing we want to do is to reveal who was active in townie groups--that hands the mafia a short list of pro town roles.
One thing that should be revealed though: one person didn't show up for the protection of "everyone". I can't post who was in that group, but one of the members should.
I believe atheotes was the one who skipped out on the khaan kill.
The members in the protection group were myself, Tratorix, and Captain Blackadder. I protected everyone when one of the members did not show up, and I also did so last night, when no attack was made on him and no one else showed up.
Vote: Tratorix
Vote: Tratorix
Originally Posted by Ignoramus:
The members in the protection group were myself, Tratorix, and Captain Blackadder. I protected everyone when one of the members did not show up, and I also did so last night, when no attack was made on him and no one else showed up.
Vote: Tratorix
In the intrest of honesty I did not protect Everyone last night I was in my villa having a party with some advocate collogues of mine. I will not allow another Senator to take the fall when it is my fault. It shall never happen again believe meThe members in the protection group were myself, Tratorix, and Captain Blackadder. I protected everyone when one of the members did not show up, and I also did so last night, when no attack was made on him and no one else showed up.
Vote: Tratorix
ooc I just forgot, sorry about that.
I'm confused, what is the purpose of one group of people attempting to both kill and protect me? I don't understand what results it could give.
Originally Posted by everyone:
I'm confused, what is the purpose of one group of people attempting to both kill and protect me? I don't understand what results it could give.
It was designed so that we could have as many people doing something a night so that no one could be out killing townies.I'm confused, what is the purpose of one group of people attempting to both kill and protect me? I don't understand what results it could give.
Originally Posted by everyone:
I'm confused, what is the purpose of one group of people attempting to both kill and protect me? I don't understand what results it could give.
It ties both parties up for the night so they can't do evil, mafia type things.I'm confused, what is the purpose of one group of people attempting to both kill and protect me? I don't understand what results it could give.
Oh yeah, Vote: Ichigo As I mentioned before, I was suspicous of him earlier in the game but his awesome lurking skills mean I keep forgetting about him. It's more the fact I keep forgetting him that has me voting for him now, I honestly can't remember why I was suspicous...
It allows people to know whether they're doing mafia kills or not, because if one person pulls out, the attack or protection fails, thus indicating that someone in their group might well be mafia.
Captain Blackadder: Ok, that's alright.
Unvote: Tratorix
Vote: Chaotix
Captain Blackadder: Ok, that's alright.
Unvote: Tratorix
Vote: Chaotix
Iggy - Bold the unvote.
Vote:Ichigo
Vote:Ichigo
I don't have any leads, but I know Chaotix is doing a fine job of confusing us. He comes up about once every round, yet almost no one seems to know what to make of him or what to do with him.
Vote: Chaotix
Vote: Chaotix
Vote: Abstain
Vote Chatiox
Just gut instinct really
Just gut instinct really
Originally Posted by :
Just gut instinct really
And that doesn't help us a lot...Just gut instinct really
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder:
In the intrest of honesty I did not protect Everyone last night I was in my villa having a party with some advocate collogues of mine. I will not allow another Senator to take the fall when it is my fault. It shall never happen again believe me
ooc I just forgot, sorry about that.
Did you protect him two nights ago?In the intrest of honesty I did not protect Everyone last night I was in my villa having a party with some advocate collogues of mine. I will not allow another Senator to take the fall when it is my fault. It shall never happen again believe me
ooc I just forgot, sorry about that.
Well, I'll keep voting for lurkers since they continue being unhelpful as our numbers dwindle.
Vote: Tratorix
Vote: Tratorix
Please. If you're going to vote for me because you're confused, tell me what confuses you (in the thread or via pm, I don't care.) and I will lift the so-called veil of confusion. There are some who know exactly who I am (actually most of them are dead now- YLC, Sasaki, ATPG, maybe a few others), there are others who have ideas about what I might be, but everyone who has bothered to read the thread knows that I am a role with a blocking ability, whose only goal is to survive the game, and who can share the guards of someone who I block.
I don't need people voting for me because of "gut instinct", because if I die, then I lose, and I'd rather not lose because I revealed to the town rather than keeping a low profile and staying hidden.
Also- Ichigo is a terrible vote, too. I know what he is, and it would be a bad idea to lynch him.
Finally, I suggest that Sasaki give us the list of townies who was supposed to do night actions last night, and we'll vote someone who wasn't doing any action, instead of just voting based on "instinct" or "suspicious lurking". While they are valid reasons sometimes, in this game there are townies who need to remain hidden from the mafia as much as the mafia must remain hidden from the town.
I don't need people voting for me because of "gut instinct", because if I die, then I lose, and I'd rather not lose because I revealed to the town rather than keeping a low profile and staying hidden.
Also- Ichigo is a terrible vote, too. I know what he is, and it would be a bad idea to lynch him.
Finally, I suggest that Sasaki give us the list of townies who was supposed to do night actions last night, and we'll vote someone who wasn't doing any action, instead of just voting based on "instinct" or "suspicious lurking". While they are valid reasons sometimes, in this game there are townies who need to remain hidden from the mafia as much as the mafia must remain hidden from the town.
While I'm here, I'm going to
Unvote: Abstain, Vote: Tratorix
for the sole purpose of keeping me alive just in case the round ends unexpectedly.
Unvote: Abstain, Vote: Tratorix
for the sole purpose of keeping me alive just in case the round ends unexpectedly.
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