Rubicon [Concluded]

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

OOC: When I say Nero I mean Ignoramus. In essence Ignoramus is Tiberius Claudius Nero, an Optimates senator who claims to be able to switch sides to the Populares based on his personal service with Caesar. Historically the role PM was accurate and did not seem fabricated. He was mentioned by Pompey in the context of the dictatorial one not wanting a potential side-switcher alive. Anyone who claims that Ignormaus is a shadowy unknown is not paying enough attention, or more sinisterly playing politics...

[Tratorix]

very well. That does make sense to me.

unvote, vote: Cultured Drizzt Fan

Are you trying to set some sort of record for bandwagoning? First you try to claim innocence because you're a replacement player, then you jump on anyone who gets more than two votes. Vote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Are you trying to set some sort of record for bandwagoning? First you try to claim innocence because you're a replacement player, then you jump on anyone who gets more than two votes. Vote: ATPG

You're right. That does sound like scummy behavior. I'd better make sure I get rid of everyone who suspects me or else I'm done for.

unvote, vote: Tratorix

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ahhh well, it was a good run, have fun finding Pompey and Caesar guys.

Not necessarily. Don't take anything as given in a game where everone has an ability. There is also the possibility that Cicero is working with others who do have investigative functions. In my humble opinion, Senators, Cicero would seem to be a neutral agent. Not tied enough to either would-be tyrant to support them, but lacking his own faction to support him. I would also tend to accept the word of such an elder statesman, and do not think that he would use his magnificent oratory lightly.

I would trust Nero's claim as being able to switch sides, and furthermore believe that those targeting him would either be Pompeians or die-hard Optimates who wish to gain victory alone, supporting Pompeius rather than the rightful Republican government.

While I would not put it past Sasaki to use his own name in a dictator's list of targets, I feel that he is being used as a scapegoat in this case. And as a final thought; the greatest lies contain a grain of truth.

Vote: Cultured Drizzt Fan

but why lynch me? I don't see a legitimate reason in here? could you explain? I can see it wont matter much though, ah well.

[AggonyDuck]

I'm going to go a cruise now and will be back on Tuesday morning.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

have fun!

[Andres]

Was Andres ever proven innocent? Because I smell an Andres bluff.

I'm about to vote for Shinseikhaan.

Were you ever proven innocent?

Vote:Cultured Drizzt fan

Still bandwagoning I see.


The claim is that I was visited by pompey's daughter, so I must be either pompey or a new convert. However, I see no reason why pompey's daughter would be sneaking in to see her father, and I was told that GH was roleblocked by the woman visiting him. I wasn't visited by pompey's daughter in any case.

No, but it's pointless to do so in a sense - either he is after it and we waste two night kills the mafia must make on him, or we don't, and the mafia must waste 2 night kills on him.

If he's lying, then he makes himself a target of the mafia needlessly, and thus we shouldn't bother with him. Remember, we have 2 mafia families, so the argument of WIFOM won't work in this situation for him.

Why are there two night kills required to dispose of him instead of one? Can you elaborate on that? Slip of the tongue?

Serious FoS : YLC.

I smell a mafioso who revealed too much.

[atheotes]

reading through the thread i feel ...
cant really make a case or agree on a case against anyone and dont want to bandwagon either...

Vote: Abstain for now

[Andres]

reading through the thread i feel ...
cant really make a case or agree on a case against anyone and dont want to bandwagon either...

Vote: Abstain for now

That's the easy way out. You're either a lazy townie or a mafioso who is satisfied with the current lynch target.

Do some effort, surely one of the living guys must seem suspicious to you.

Abstaining will get you nowhere.

[TheFlax]

Vote: Cultured Drizzt fan

I seem to get a scummy vibe from him everytime, I might be wrong but I dislike his rampant vote switching. Unless someone points me toward a better vote, I'm going with this.

[Andres]

Vote: Cultured Drizzt fan

I seem to get a scummy vibe from him everytime, I might be wrong but I dislike his rampant vote switching. Unless someone points me toward a better vote, I'm going with this.

Your previous post in this thread is from May 19th and this is all you have to say?

Before you go back to lurking in the shadows, how about you give your opinion on past events, other players etc. instead of just jumping on the bandwagon?

Or did somebody pm you to quickly cast a vote?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

dang, I seem to send of scummy vibes to everyone (not you everyone...)...... first mini mafia and now this I need to work on how I play these games....

[TinCow]

Tally as of post 792

Cultured Drizzt fan: 5 (Sasaki, Jolt, GSC, Iskander, TheFlax)
Ignoramus: 4 ('khaan, Beefy187, Chaotix, Khazaar)
'khaan: 2 (Cultured Drizzt fan, Greyblades)
Ichigo: 2 (AggonyDuck, YLC)
Iskander: 1 (Caius)
TheFLax: 1 (w&f)
Khazaar: 1 (johnhughthom)
ATPG: 1 (Tratorix)
Tratorix: 1 (ATPG)

Abstain: 1 (atheotes)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

sigh..... I really would prefer not to die.....
Unvote: khaan, Vote: Ignoramus yep I did it, sold out my beliefs to live.... I now live in shame....

Now it shall be up to the gods of chance.

[TinCow]

“First appearance deceives many.”
- Publius Ovidius Naso

Several days into the crisis, the Senate was still having difficulty determining the best course of action to take. There was little unity expressed in the debates, and Senators continued to accuse their own friends on a frequent basis. One of the most prolific accusers, Cultured Drizzt fan, finally provoked the ire of the Senate with his inability to make up his mind about who was the greatest threat to the Republic. Whenever other fingers began to point in different directions, his finger soon followed as well. This annoyed many Senators, and soon Cultured Drizzt fan found a large number of fingers turning towards him.

Ignoramus as well found himself on the receiving end of many votes. He had proclaimed a willingness to cooperate with both factions, and this unnerved many men who preferred the safety of partisanship rather than equanimity. Cultured Drizzt fan defended himself vigorously for a long while, proclaiming his innocence and dedication to restoring the Republic to its proper glory, but these pleas fell on deaf ears. So, with no other option left, he changed his vote again, this time to Ignoramus to create a tie.

As the session drew to a close, an older man in a fine, white toga rose and addressed the Senate. He talked about the Trojan who fled the destruction of their city to southern Italy, he talked about Romulus and Remus leading their peoples to the Seven Hill, and he talked about ancient Brutus overthrowing the Tarquinian Kings. It was an eloquent summation of the long road the Romans had taken to the Republic, and many men grew sentimental during the oration. Towards the end, the older man turned to Beefy187 and asked if he would personally help save the Republic. Swelling with pride for his city, Beefy187 shouted emphatically in the affirmative. “Well then, sir, surely Cultured Drizzt fan is the person most worth of your vote…” Beefy187 nodded eagerly. Of course he was, why hadn’t he realized that hours ago? Beefy187 quickly changed his vote to Cultured Drizzt fan.

The Senate had long ago embraced the proscription, and once unleashed it was a brutal animal that fed of its own accord. As the hours drew to a close, Cultured Drizzt fan was the chosen meal. He looked around the room, then bowed his head sadly. “I regret that I have failed you and the Republic. I submit myself to your judgment.” Cultured Drizzt fan saluted his fellow Optimates, and walked out into the forum. As his proscription was announced, the Mob descended on him with weapons bared. They were not merciful, and soon Cultured Drizzt fan lay dead in front of the rostra. One over-enthusiastic man cut off his head, so as better to prove his claim to Cultured Drizzt fan’s possessions. The Senators cut a wide path around the disgusting scene as they filed out of the Curia.

It would be another long night.

Cultured Drizzt fan: 6 (Sasaki, Jolt, GSC, Iskander, TheFlax, Beefy187)
Ignoramus: 4 (Cultured Drizzt fan, 'khaan, Chaotix, Khazaar)
Ichigo: 2 (AggonyDuck, YLC)
'khaan: 1 (Greyblades)
Iskander: 1 (Caius)
TheFLax: 1 (w&f)
Khazaar: 1 (johnhughthom)
ATPG: 1 (Tratorix)
Tratorix: 1 (ATPG)

Abstain: 1 (atheotes)

Not Voting: 7 (LittleGrizzly, everyone, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, Ichigo, Marshal Murat, Captain Blackadder, Ignoramus)

Alive (25):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
Sasaki Kojiro
everyone
johnhughthom
AggonyDuck
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Chaotix
Khazaar
Ichigo
Jolt
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Captain Blackadder
atheotes
Tratorix
YLC
woad&fangs
Askthepizzaguy
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (8):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres

Proscripted (4):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan

WoG/Suicide (0):

It is now Night VI. This night phase will end on Monday, May 25th at 12:00pm EST.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Well, at least Cicero's Consistent.
everyone satisfied? good game though people, have fun Finding Pompey and Caesar. just don't put to much faith in Cicero and the messages the tyrants leave you.

[Beskar]

dang, I seem to send of scummy vibes to everyone (not you everyone...)...... first mini mafia and now this I need to work on how I play these games....

In the mini-mafia, you was killed by the Serial Killers.

Unfortunately, you had to be a human.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

good point....

[ULC]

Anyone notice Cato has gone missing? Either he went inactive or he has been lynched...hmmm...

[johnhughthom]

I'm staying at my girlfriends tonight and she has no internet, so may not be on tonight or tomorrow. Please don't kill me.

edit: Maybe I should follow Shinseikhaan's example and say please kill me? It has kept him alive...

[Beefy187]

I feel used

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Anyone notice Cato has gone missing? Either he went inactive or he has been lynched...hmmm...

Or has been murdered...

but why lynch me? I don't see a legitimate reason in here? could you explain? I can see it wont matter much though, ah well.

A legitimate reason from my perspective is to save someone that I consider innocent.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

by lynching another innocent person. very strange , though It would make sense if you were Caser, and knew that though Ignoramus is a Optimate, he can change sides, while I can not . (crazy theory I know, but heck I am bored so please feel free to take it at face value.)

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

There is plenty of evidence for the legitmacy of Nero's claim. There is little/none on your behalf. Unfortunately when it comes down to it, one must be sacrificed. In addition I trust my friend Cicero's judgement, the Great Orator has saved the Republic before, and I believe that he will do so again.

I'll freely adnit to being Populares, but as I have stated before the Senate needs to stop being divided along party-like lines and invoke Concordia to oppose the greater threats of Pompeius and Caesar. We can go back to disagreeing after the crisis is over.

(OOC: Nothing personal, but it was my considered opinion that you were the only option to save a more likely innocent.)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

nahh that's fine, I was probably just kidding!

[Ignoramus]

The Senators filed glumly into the Curia for another day of state-sanctioned executions. Every man was nervous that he would be the choice of the day. Most men were too busy brooding in their own thoughts to notice the empty seat in the Populares section. More attention was paid to the notices nailed to the Curia doors:

Anyone notice the bolded phrase? I think that indicates that Andres was Populares.

Now does that mean that Andres was Marcus Antonius or is a clever ruse by Caesar?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Since I have a feeling I might die tonight, I will post this now.

LittleGrizzly should be lynched tomorrow.

I'm currently in a vigilante group, however we don't have anyone we want to kill. Since I want to ensure that we are all taking part in a townie action and not sneaking off to assassinate senators, I'm trying to arrange a protection group. The plan is that the vigilante group will attack the target being protected, and all 7 people will be confirmed to have taken part in the townie group.

Are you interested? The target chosen is the living person with the least posts, username "everyone" because if the protection should fail it will be no great loss.

Sasaki

That is a great idea!!

I am already protecting, i was going to say you may use your vigilante group to attack me if you wish as i know my protection is arranged... but i am not sure what are the chances of your attack group successfully killing me despite my protection... so maybe best to stick with everyone...

I wish to somehow prove my innocence to you though...

Take note of the bolded part. Now, the benefit of pm'ing tons of people to get them involved is, you get a sense of what people are doing or claim they are doing. There were simply not enough people left over for LG to have a group protecting him, or for him to be in a protecting group.

So, my conclusion was that he was either a mafioso or a consul. I told him as much, and asked for his pm as proof.

Im not giving you a consul pm... we could work out something.. but i have no gaurentee your not mafia after a consul pm...

When I said we could do a deal where he sent half the consul pm and I sent him the other half (I've been in contact with a consul since an earlier bout of pm'ing for townie groups), he read it but never replied...what happened to working something out?

[Andres]

Anyone notice the bolded phrase? I think that indicates that Andres was Populares.

Now does that mean that Andres was Marcus Antonius or is a clever ruse by Caesar?

No, it means I'm one of the 15 or so Populares senators. What was your point again?

Since I have a feeling I might die tonight, I will post this now.

LittleGrizzly should be lynched tomorrow.


Take note of the bolded part. Now, the benefit of pm'ing tons of people to get them involved is, you get a sense of what people are doing or claim they are doing. There were simply not enough people left over for LG to have a group protecting him, or for him to be in a protecting group.

So, my conclusion was that he was either a mafioso or a consul. I told him as much, and asked for his pm as proof.



When I said we could do a deal where he sent half the consul pm and I sent him the other half (I've been in contact with a consul since an earlier bout of pm'ing for townie groups), he read it but never replied...what happened to working something out?

So, LG doesn't want to give you his role pm, big deal. You advice us to lynch a possible consul?

Why consul and not praetor? You already know the faction he belongs to?

[Ignoramus]

No, it means I'm one of the 15 or so Populares senators. What was your point again?

My point was exactly that. I'd only just noticed that line in the write-up. The second half was merely thinking out loud.

[Jolt]

So, LG doesn't want to give you his role pm, big deal. You advice us to lynch a possible consul?

Why consul and not praetor? You already know the faction he belongs to?

Incidently he might know who are the two Praetors, while knowing one Consul.