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[navarro951]

Vote: YLC

[Splitpersonality]

Tally:
LittleGrizzly: 8 (Sasaki, 'khaan, YLC, Marshal Murat, Beefy187, Captain Blackadder, everyone, Khazaar)
YLC: 7 (GSC, Tratorix, Iskander, Split, LG, Greyblades, Navarro)
Caius: 1 (ATPG)
everyone: 1 (Ignoramus)

Abstain: 1 (Chaotix)

[Chaotix]

Vote: YLC

I don't want YLC to die, but I believe LG has a better case now.

I've been talking with him through pm- he still claims he is a Consul. This is now possible, because there is an open slot for the last Consul now that YLC has been proved he isn't one.

Here's the deal: just in case LG really is a Consul, we should let him live tonight. I am going to block him tonight- if he has guards around him this time, I will be able to tell, and then we can confirm it. If not, then we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't want YLC to die either... but if LG is a Consul he could be twice as useful. If only there were more time to get another target to the top...

[atheotes]

wow..so much to read and take in... Looks like LG was truly away based on his activity and maybe YLC is lying...Like Andres said, his first post about 2 nights for killing is suspicious...
Vote: YLC

[johnhughthom]

I was undecided between LG and YLC which was why I waited to vote. I am less suspicious of LG now so,

Vote:YLC

I don't think you ever responded to my query on your wording in this post YLC:

The wording and specific details of it's function are not. I have no urge to let other mafioso forge and then create a mock setup to parade around as a fake Consul.

[TheFlax]

I did not want to do this initially, but with the reappearance of LG, claiming to be consul no less, the choice between the two is sadly obvious.

Vote: YLC

[Jolt]

Vote: YLC

navarro, can you tell me why you're voting? It only makes it seem like you really are mafia.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Unvote:LittleGrizzly
Vote:YLC

I don't think YLC is mafia, but he's certainly gummed up the works enough to die. I intended to keep my questioning of LG private, but I had two other claimed consuls which was enough for me to post the case.

LG still has a lot to prove...some very questionable statements which only Andres could wave away.

[TinCow]

“In a republic this rule ought to be observed: that the majority should not have the predominant power.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Despite the horrors that had been committed in the dark of night, the Senate discussions quickly devolved into a debate about who held the rightful title of Consul. Initially, many accused LittleGrizzly of falsely making this claim, while others said that it was YLC who had perjured himself with fraudulent statements about his station. The latter defended himself firmly, and for many hours it seemed as though the former would be proscripted.

However, towards the end of the day, LittleGrizzly rose from his seat and berated the entire Senate for doubting his claims. Humbled, many backed down from their attack on him, and turned their attentions back towards YLC. The votes quickly shifted, and as the session grew to a close, YLC was found to be in the lead.

Knowing what was to come, YLC rose calmly and walked out into the middle of the Curia. There, he gave a bow to his friends in the Optimates section, before turning and walking out into the forum, where the baying crowd was waiting. As a few Senators watched, he walked confidently and with his head held high, right into the maw of the hungry mob. A great tumult began, and when it finally dissipated, little was left except torn pieces of toga and a bloody sandal.

Their work done, the Senate retired for the evening, to await whatever the night would bring.

YLC: 10 (GSC, Tratorix, Iskander, LG, Greyblades, split, atheotes, johnhughthom, TheFlax, Sasaki)
LittleGrizzly: 7 ('khaan, YLC, Marshal Murat, Beefy187, Captain Blackadder, everyone, Khazaar)
Caius: 1 (ATPG)
everyone: 1 (Ignoramus)

Abstain: 1 (Chaotix (did not unvote))

Not voting: 4 (AggonyDuck, Ichigo, Jolt, Caius)

Alive (23):
Beefy187
Greyblades
LittleGrizzly
Sasaki Kojiro
everyone
johnhughthom
AggonyDuck
Shinseikhaan
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Chaotix
Khazaar
Ichigo
Jolt
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Marshal Murat
Iskander 3.1
Captain Blackadder
atheotes
Tratorix
Askthepizzaguy
Ignoramus
TheFlax
Caius

Killed (9):
White_eyes:D
mini
Beskar
Yaropolk
pevergreen
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
Andres
woad&fangs

Proscripted (5):
navarro951
Tiberius of the Drake
Cronos Impera
Cultured Drizzt fan
YLC

WoG/Suicide (0):

It is now Night VII. This night phase will end on Wednesday, May 27th at 1:30pm EST.

[Andres]

Unvote:LittleGrizzly
Vote:YLC

I don't think YLC is mafia, but he's certainly gummed up the works enough to die. I intended to keep my questioning of LG private, but I had two other claimed consuls which was enough for me to post the case.

LG still has a lot to prove...some very questionable statements which only Andres could wave away.

Says the man who waved away all the scumminess dripping off YLC.

Which statements? Care to post them now, since you're very likely going to die tonight, like you already said the previous night. Your fear was of course justified because of the numerous..., eh, one?, hmmm... no attacks at all, eh, hm... by the fact that somebody is probably thinking about taking you out tonight!

I urge all Senators who hold the Republic of Rome dear to keep the snake that is known as Sasaki Kojiro on a very short leash.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Pleeease quit making my mafia partners participate in townie groups! It's gotten to the point where my guys can't even kill at night!

No

[Andres]

No

Discrediting somebody who's not too keen on trusting good ol' Sasaki who always plays for town, even when he can voluntarily change his victory condition to a mafia one, because he hates being mafia?

[Beskar]

What is sort of silly that there are still people alive that should have been killed rounds ago.

[LittleGrizzly]

I would hope to god that all these people trusting sasaki have a damn good reason for doing so... and i hope to god someones accounting for sasaki nights actions as well...

Apart from lots of hoping to god to stay alive i have to basically convince sasaki not to get his lackeys to vote for me also...

Apart from spL1tp350naL1ty not a lackey... cool name as well...

[ULC]

I served my purpose...even in death I await the glory of Rome and the Republic to be rightfully restored.

I will no longer further participate in this game, I have more important things to do besides being accused of idiocy.

[Andres]

I would hope to god that all these people trusting sasaki have a damn good reason for doing so... and i hope to god someones accounting for sasaki nights actions as well...

Apart from lots of hoping to god to stay alive i have to basically convince sasaki not to get his lackeys to vote for me also...

Apart from spL1tp350naL1ty not a lackey... cool name as well...

No LG, you don't have to prove anything. I suggest that the man who claims to be the center of all townie actions proves his innocence in this thread the next round.

It's a very bad idea to blindly follow the lead of a "Senator" who has not been thoroughly examined and put under pressure.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

you know whats funny? even after all of this killing we are right back where we started, it is a equal senate. The status quo remains unchanged.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

you know whats funny? even after all of this killing we are right back where we started, it is a equal senate. The status quo remains unchanged.

You are keeping track of such things?

No LG, you don't have to prove anything. I suggest that the man who claims to be the center of all townie actions proves his innocence in this thread the next round.

It's a very bad idea to blindly follow the lead of a "Senator" who has not been thoroughly examined and put under pressure.

I can if need be. But the fact is, setting up vig groups that attack protection groups is a neutral action. All it does is confirm that those involved were not performing another night action on that night. If I was protecting specific targets and trying to get other people killed then you would have cause for concern.

[Andres]

I can if need be. But the fact is, setting up vig groups that attack protection groups is a neutral action. All it does is confirm that those involved were not performing another night action on that night. If I was protecting specific targets and trying to get other people killed then you would have cause for concern.

And so far, all your actions worked out fine? Why aren't you posting a list of all those who refused to cooperate so far, including the Optimates?

That doesn't give away much, does it? And it gives town something to work with in case you die and you can no longer post such a list.

And I would of course like to see something that proves your innocence. It can wait until the day phase.

[Chaotix]

It's necessary to unvote from an abstain?

[Splitpersonality]

I did it anyway, just in case. It'd be a good thing to always check too.

Thank you for the kind words LG, but whether or not you are what you are, remains to be seen. I'll gladly drink to your safety today, if it can carry you through 'till tomorrow., however.

In time you shall prove your innocence though, for now you're better than a liar. No offense YLC :P

[TinCow]

It's necessary to unvote from an abstain?

A vote is a vote is a vote. An unvote is required for a valid vote change. As I stated previously, few societies have been more complicated and obstructed by excessive and incomprehensible rule systems than Rome. I am sticking to the spirit of the Republic, and requiring that the largely ceremonial mechanics be followed. If you don't like this, the easiest solution is to make sure the Pompeians or Caesarians win. Things worked a lot more smoothly under Augustus.


[edit] The lynch write-up has been completed and edited into the Day VI results posts.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

You are keeping track of such things?

well I am dead, I have nothing better to do then to read the summary thread over and over again.... you pick up things you missed on the first read through.

[ULC]

Thank you TC for the most honorable death.

Of course Andres, why should we care about the Populares! They are so totally for the Republic that only Optimates would betray the Senate to the Tyrants.

My suggestion is to not listen to the pitiful rhetoric Andres and GSC, they are both like in mind, and I feel that they do not have the best interests of the town at heart nor spirit.

[Beefy187]

There wasn't any vote shifting this time..

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Thank you TC for the most honorable death.

Of course Andres, why should we care about the Populares! They are so totally for the Republic that only Optimates would betray the Senate to the Tyrants.

My suggestion is to not listen to the pitiful rhetoric Andres and GSC, they are both like in mind, and I feel that they do not have the best interests of the town at heart nor spirit.

I believe that my esteemed collegue was suggesting the dangers of placing too much power in the hands of one Senator. While he has shown his love for the Republic in putting aside Optimates ties in order to proscript your traitorous self, there is always the danger that a weak man may seek to wield power over all.

While I commend Sasaki for his operations and impartiality to date, there is always the dangers that a man will favour his close friends and compatriots rather than his more distant colleagues.

[ULC]

I believe that my esteemed collegue was suggesting the dangers of placing too much power in the hands of one Senator. While he has shown his love for the Republic in putting aside Optimates ties in order to proscript your traitorous self, there is always the danger that a weak man may seek to wield power over all.

While I commend Sasaki for his operations and impartiality to date, there is always the dangers that a man will favour his close friends and compatriots rather than his more distant colleagues.

I suggest you cease whoring yourself in attempt to gain favor, you might catch something troublesome. You think me a traitor but I tell you now one amongst your number is indeed a tyrant, and I suspect you most, for even as you give in one hand you take away with the slap from the other.

One among GSC. Aggony, and Split is a traitor to the republic, thanks to the work I and Chaotix accomplished. Due to some background checking, we can confirm both ATPG and Aggony innocent - it is between you and Split, my fine friend of backhandery rhetoric.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

You attempt to hide your own treachery behind posthumous counter declarations. Your case rejected overwhelming by the Senate, your monstrous schemes halted, all you can do is attempt to haunt those who had you proscribed. Well I for one will sleep sounder tonight knowing that your sleep is much more permanent.

Is it not interesting Senators that a convited criminal of the Pompeian faction has accused a Populares Senator of the highest virtue of being a traitor, while those of the Optimates who have had previously questions raised about their allegiance are proclaimed openly to be innocent.

Enough of your relentless weeping from beyond the grave, shade, cross the River Styx and do not trouble us again!

[Splitpersonality]

I am no traitor, and I intend to prove this YLC.

I wish you not be dead, as to continue your investigation, but I did not realize at the time... I feel traitorous to the republic, maybe tonight I shall drink my sorrows away. Any are welcome to join me.

GSC, if this man speaks the truth, I suggest you make a better case than shooing him away. Not to start anything with you, but it would be wise.

[ULC]

You attempt to hide your own treachery behind posthumous counter declarations. Your case rejected overwhelming by the Senate, your monstrous schemes halted, all you can do is attempt to haunt those who had you proscribed. Well I for one will sleep sounder tonight knowing that your sleep is much more permanent.

Is it not interesting Senators that a convited criminal of the Pompeian faction has accused a Populares Senator of the highest virtue of being a traitor, while those of the Optimates who have had previously questions raised about their allegiance are proclaimed openly to be innocent.

Enough of your relentless weeping from beyond the grave, shade, cross the River Styx and do not trouble us again!

You truly are the Curia's butt monkey. I betrayed nothing, and did only what I thought was noble and just. If through my sacrifice the Republic can be saved, then so be it! Death is something any man who holds his values to heart should never fear! Those who would forgo their standards, their beliefs for another day of life deserve it not! I am a Senator! I am for the Republic, be damned my party to ruinous hell if they decide that their coffers beget more attention then their responsibility to the people of Rome!

If you listen to him, then only the dead will have escaped the fate the living will suffer, and the joke shall be upon you! He is not virtuous at all! He still spouts pointless parties divisions! He makes it clear that only one party has the best interests for Rome, and that all others are fools! Rex Follis art though! Support of tyrants, pillagers of freedom and rapists of dignity! Shame be upon those who think this man speaks any truth, he who would divide you along pointless lines through fear, slander, and intimidation!

Forgive me, I have gone on long enough - please divide my estates amongst the people, through a vote of those still with passion and pride for the Republic. My worldly possessions mean naught to me, only that the ideals of Rome be upheld.