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[Ignoramus]

Little Grizzly stop spamming my inbox, I'm not going to help you kill split when, as far as I'm concerned, your as big a suspect as he is. Stop asking.

Mafia.

[Beefy187]

Mafia.

Not necessary. Would the mafia actually bothers to gather attention like that?

Sure his done it in Noble Sons II... But I think his innocent

[LittleGrizzly]

Little Grizzly stop spamming my inbox, I'm not going to help you kill split when, as far as I'm concerned, your as big a suspect as he is. Stop asking.

Ok no problem, congratulations on making yourself my kill target for tomorrow night.... even if only because i have wasted effort now and its too late to change the order

Ohh and if he is a big a suspect as me... assuming im some kind of suspect to you... surely his removal would be to your benefit.

If i suspect Sasaki and Greyblades for example i would help sasaki kill greyblades as it removes someone i suspect...

Your probably just a bad townie, still as a suspect and a bad townie you've made your way to the top of the kill/lynch list..

Ohh and please explain what this suspicion is about...

Lastly, apologies split, my hands were kinda tied in the matter.... you will probably be killed off in the next few nights due to the suspicion on you, but, if you as you claim are, loyal to the republican ideals of rome then you will continue to help us in the meantime, who knows we may get the last mafia before your death...

Even if you do die in the glorious struggle for the republic... you are part of the victory as long as you are a senator, so even if you are to die before the republic is saved, your name will be honoured throughout time as the senator who martyred himself for rome!

Edit:

I don't know if you can submit order changes or even if there will be enough time left...

But if so the group i ordered to attack splitpersonality change your attack to greyblades, remove greyblades from the list of helpers and replace him with splitpersonality...

split... if you would be so kind as to join the attack...

[Greyblades]

Your killing a townie just because he refuses to kill someone else who he has no reason to? Since when were you elected judge, jury and executioner? Your more scummy to me than split and I have no reason or inclination to help you because when posed with the choice of killing a proved investigator or a unconfirmed lurker you go for the townie. If the rest of town is this dense then we may as well give up.

I am not a mafia I am a one use detective I've used it up and now I'm just a townie.

[Beefy187]

Your killing a townie just because he refuses to kill someone else who he has no reason to? Since when were you elected judge, jury and executioner? Your more scummy to me than split and I have no reason or inclination to help you because when posed with the choice of killing a proved investigator or a unconfirmed lurker you go for the townie. If the rest of town is this dense then we may as well give up.

I am not a mafia I am a one use detective I've used it up and now I'm just a townie.

Its late game Greyblades. LittleGrizzly seems to know whats happening with most of the players. The best way for us to win is by getting rid of players who doesn't seem to be in group.

[Andres]

Its late game Greyblades. LittleGrizzly seems to know whats happening with most of the players. The best way for us to win is by getting rid of players who doesn't seem to be in group.

Are you 100 % sure about LittleGrizzly? He was a suspect of Sasaki a couple of rounds ago. Did he in the meanwhile provide the required evidence of the role he claimed in that round?

[Beefy187]

Are you 100 % sure about LittleGrizzly? He was a suspect of Sasaki a couple of rounds ago. Did he in the meanwhile provide the required evidence of the role he claimed in that round?

No. But nobody else seems to be taking the initiative. And I am keeping close attention on someone else I think may be guilty.

We also have 14 men left so, we don't have to hurry too much.

[Greyblades]

@Beefy: And yet he's killing a proved investigator over a lurker?

[Andres]

I am not a mafia I am a one use detective I've used it up and now I'm just a townie.

@Beefy: And yet he's killing a proved investigator over a lurker?

Also, it seems like your special ability is the exact same as AggonyDuck's, who posted his in the public thread early on in the game.

[LittleGrizzly]

Your killing a townie just because he refuses to kill someone else who he has no reason to?

Nope im killing you because your a suspect and refuse to cooperate with group efforts...

Besides didn't you just say split was as much of a suspect as me ?

Either you aren't suspicious of me or you are suspicious of split

Since when were you elected judge, jury and executioner?

Around about the time sasaki put me in charge of the townie group, its not just me though, as you can see from sasaki's posts there is suspicion on you...

Your more scummy than me or split and I have no reason or inclination to help you.

Weren't me and split as scummy as each other a few posts back ?

As it is my innocence seems to be trusted by everyone else but you... are you the genuis who can see what others are missing... if so you better spit it out because as things stand i am directing the towns efforts, and any good townie would shout and scream and stomp if he thought a scummy player was leading the town....

But the only reason you seem to be suspicious of me is because i asked you to carry out an attack, no mention of any suspicion on me whilst i was clearly leading the towns efforts, where i was requesting people to give me thier night results, where sasaki said i was in charge of the townie group...

No, the only time you seemed to have a problem is when i asked you to participate in a night action...

You can call me a bad townie all you want but good townie doesn't follow a player that has yet to prove his innocence like sheep just because he says so.

There are things you can't know, primarily because your still a suspect, partially because information is one power we have over the mafia at the moment.... though you still don't have to take my word for it... look at the facts...

Sasaki perhaps one of the best mafia players on the .org handing over the town group to me... sasaki wouldn't have dared do such a thing unless he could be 100% certain of my innocence

No counter claim to my claim of consul, if i was the real other consul, and a fake consul was just put in charge i would be screaming the thread down that he is a fake

Chaotix blocking me two nights running with no drop in kills and him confirming that i have guards, all said in the thread just go back and check

I have huge paranoia in these games but i would trust someone who managed all the above criteria...

Are you 100 % sure about LittleGrizzly? He was a suspect of Sasaki a couple of rounds ago. Did he in the meanwhile provide the required evidence of the role he claimed in that round?

sasaki publically handed the townie network over to me, combine that with stuff i mentioned above which is checkable through the thread, i think there is every reason to believe my innocence. There are a limited amount of players who can be sure of my innocence, the absence of anyone but greyblades questioning me must also prove my innocence to a point...

Greyblades if you truely are a proven innocent why do you appear in sasaki's suspect list ?

I have seen nothing to prove your innocence hence why your part of the suspect list...

Edit: If i have missed something please correct my error, there is time for me to cancel the order if i feel there is a need to... but i do not see such a need at the moment...

[Andres]

Sasaki perhaps one of the best mafia players on the .org handing over the town group to me... sasaki wouldn't have dared do such a thing unless he could be 100% certain of my innocence

Sasaki is not infallible...

No counter claim to my claim of consul, if i was the real other consul, and a fake consul was just put in charge i would be screaming the thread down that he is a fake

Weren't there two consuls anyhow according to the OP?

Chaotix blocking me two nights running with no drop in kills and him confirming that i have guards, all said in the thread just go back and check

I have huge paranoia in these games but i would trust someone who managed all the above criteria...

Wasn't Chaotix confirmed scum (or didn't he say himself that he was scum somewhere)?

Are you 100 % sure about LittleGrizzly? He was a suspect of Sasaki a couple of rounds ago. Did he in the meanwhile provide the required evidence of the role he claimed in that round?

sasaki publically handed the townie network over to me, combine that with stuff i mentioned above which is checkable through the thread, i think there is every reason to believe my innocence. There are a limited amount of players who can be sure of my innocence, the absence of anyone but greyblades questioning me must also prove my innocence to a point...

Maybe Sasaki has reasons to believe you're innocent, but your explanations don't clear you entirely as far as I'm concerned.

Town should not make the mistake of letting a so-called confirmed innocent off the hook for the rest of the game.

[Marshal Murat]

I think that Greyblades, since he revealed that he is Pollio, should be killed. Who doesn't want to end Polio?

[LittleGrizzly]

Sasaki is not infallible...

Certainly not, and despite his great nose for mafia he can be wrong sometimes...

So knowing sasaki don't you think he would ensured i was an innocent using methods available to him as townie group leader ?

Weren't there two consuls anyhow according to the OP?

Yes and we have 2 claimed consuls, but no more



Wasn't Chaotix confirmed scum (or didn't he say himself that he was scum somewhere)?

From what i have read he seemed to have a nuetral role, you'll notice his little rant after he died 'last time i try and help the town' or something to that effect.

He was a roleblocker, i think others can confirm this, he roleblocked me two nights running whilst the mafia maintained thier level of kills, and posted in the thread saying so...


Maybe Sasaki has reasons to believe you're innocent, but your explanations don't clear you entirely as far as I'm concerned.

Town should not make the mistake of letting a so-called confirmed innocent off the hook for the rest of the game.

I realise what i have presented isn't a slam dunk case, but i think its fairly close, there are other ways my innocence has been proven but i can't really share that information.... as much as that sucks it is for the good of the town...