Quote Originally Posted by Che Roriniho View Post
No, the ultra poor used to be spread about fairly evenly, which stopped when old Ball-Crusher decided to sell all of the nice houses, leaving the shitty houses for the ultra-poor. And seeing as crud houses tended to be on the same estates, this caused ghettos.

Basically, Thatcher is ultimately responsible for the deaths from ghetto culture in recent years, as it is her legacy which borne it.
The world is full of ghettos. Mayfair is a ghetto - a rich ghetto, and one that I'd love to live in although I'll never manage to afford to live there.

I'm sorry, but living in a bad house doesn't force you into crime / drugs / killings. These decisions are all taken by the individuals concerned. These areas were OK at some point. The middle class people didn't come and do drugs in the communal areas / graffiti the walls and ruin the place. Generally it is the people that live there that trash it. I imagine the attitude is it's not theirs so why look after it?

You can blame thatcher for killing off the grammer schools / reducing assisted places or for inadequately policing these areas but at the end of the day the people on the estates are in control of their own destiny. The schools are still free, the houses are still subsidised. No, they could all not become millionaires but they still have options that are not available in other parts of the world

Immigrants often come to these shores will far less and work hard to achieve - probably as they managed to get here they have the mindset to work hard.

And again, blaming someone who'se been out of office for over a decade is grasping at straws. Labour had ample time to sort this out if they'd wanted to.