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If one argues that it is against God's will;
One can counter that they are the way God made them. If God wanted them some other way, he would have made them that way. Any argument regarding God's will is pure speculation anyway, because no one knows the mind of God. Any who claim to are fools.
If one argues that it is against nature;
There have been countless species who have demonstrated homosexual desire and coupling. Some species even change gender spontaneously in a same-sex environment, to keep the species alive. There is nothing particularly unique about human behavior, it is once again, perfectly natural, as we are part of nature, not separate from it.
If one argues that it is uncivilized;
It is a consenting activity between two adults, which is far less uncivilized than most other human behaviors such as hatred, loathing, greed, sloth, gluttony, selfishness, apathy, and so forth which are destructive things, none of them illegal. So if we are to legislate morality, why not touch on the things which clearly are tearing society apart, such as organized hatred? If you won't make hate illegal, why must you make love that you don't understand illegal? If Nazis can march freely in our streets, so can the gays. And duh, I'd prefer gays marching than Nazis.
If one argues that it is perverse;
Then you must make illegal all forms of sodomy including relations which involve parts of the body above the neck, because many people argue those activities are equally perverse, even among heterosexuals. You must also ban adult videos and literature, as well as adult oriented playthings. And you must also ban articles of clothing, public and private, which tittilate the senses and encourage lust which is not for the defined purpose of procreation. Once you outlaw what things people deem perverse, you must outlaw all forms of sex for pleasure, as that is not what God/nature/religious people intended it to be for.
If one argues it will lead to polygamy;
I have news for you. Polygamy already exists and it is indeed a separate issue. If you're this concerned about marriage, why not confront Islamic fundies who allow girls as young as 8 to be married to 50-year olds and be given no legal rights or protections. There are far worse things in the world than two consenting adults getting married, which involve much greater "distortions" of what we call marriage.
If one argues that it is immoral;
It is immoral to persecute a people who have done you no wrong. It is immoral to fire people from a job because of which consenting adult they choose to share a bed with. It is immoral to focus so much on preventing gay people from obtaining equality under the law. It is immoral to prevent people of the same gender to obtain the right to visit their loved ones in a hospital, or to adopt children. Gay and bisexual people often end up having children, and as such they are allowed (as if they needed our approval?) to raise their own children as fit, loving parents. A person's same-sex preference should not exclude them from acting as a normal member of society.
If one argues that it teaches children that it is ok, and that is contradictory to your religious teachings;
Other forms of behavior banned by your religious teachings, such as gambling or prostitution or divorce, happen all the time, and yet somehow you manage to live. Wars and slavery and human destruction of themselves and their environments happen all the time, and frankly the religious sector of our population tends to support or ignore those policies more than the secularists do. You can, as you are legally allowed to do, spread teachings of fear and hatred against gay people to your children. You can teach that they are rotten to the core and will burn in hell. And someday, your child may see your false piety and your casting off of other human beings as garbage, and they may elect to do the same towards you; especially considering that the chance that your child may be gay is greater than you might imagine. You must also realize that they can choose to believe in whatever faith they like in this country, or none at all, and increasingly that's what they will do. Yet somehow, ever since marriage between gays became legal in several states, God did not smote us, and nothing out of the ordinary happened. Oh, except for some very extraordinary things... such as a people once persecuted are now being treated like equal human beings, and it didn't affect your life in a negative way at all. For some people you've already judged as being fodder for Satan, they are enjoying their lives as free people. And if there is a God and he does judge them, let Him judge them for doing something they were free to engage in, not bullied into hiding from by religious zealots, forced to live an uncomfortable lie which often leads to depression and suicide.
Finally:
Love thy neighbor, and don't judge him or her, because you're hardly a saint, and their sexuality is none of your business. Because this will affect our laws and therefore our courts, you have a right to have an opinion on the matter, but once the votes have been counted and the laws upheld by a court, let it go. Find another scapegoat for blaming the world's troubles on.
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