Boar Hunting

[Fragony]

A bow is already pretty stupid, bring a gun, a big one. And a desert eagle for backup. "Javalina" is a breed, not the way to hunt them, think that caused some confusion.

[Vuk]

Gotta agree with Frag, bring a gun. You DON'T wanna let a boar get that close to you, because it will likely win. Back in the day when people used to do it professionally, they often got hurt and killed. It is very dangerous to fight a boar with a spear. You are not Rambo...are you?

[Fixiwee]

Well a gun wont help much. If you hurt a boar and it runs to you, the chances of hitting it are like zero for an untrained person.

[Vuk]

Well a gun wont help much. If you hurt a boar and it runs to you, the chances of hitting it are like zero for an untrained person.

lol, then get trained! Being able to shoot is a healthy skill for anyone to know!

[Cute Wolf]

Well, you should try using upperhand spear technique when fighting against boars! don't forget to get your armour and aspis though! If you wear full hoplite panoply and then hunting boars, I bet the police won't try to mess with you

[Fixiwee]

lol, then get trained! Being able to shoot is a healthy skill for anyone to know!

We already had this discussion and I'm not going to revive it. By law, I'm not even allowed to hold a gun for the next 10 years, because I refused millitary service and did civil service instead.
Anyway, I read a statistic 2 weeks ago, that an american trained policeman has a chance of hitting a moving target at 3 feet at about 21%-25%. That decreases to under 10% up over 10 feet.
What I am saying, shooting a gun at a fast moving small animal that's in rage and wounded is nigh impossible.

[Vuk]

We already had this discussion and I'm not going to revive it. By law, I'm not even allowed to hold a gun for the next 10 years, because I refused millitary service and did civil service instead.
Anyway, I read a statistic 2 weeks ago, that an american trained policeman has a chance of hitting a moving target at 3 feet at about 21%-25%. That decreases to under 10% up over 10 feet.
What I am saying, shooting a gun at a fast moving small animal that's in rage and wounded is nigh impossible.

It becomes much easier to hit when it is moving toward you. And you would have a better chance of hitting it with a gun than a bow or spear. Ever try hitting a charging animal with a spear? I once found myself the victim of a dog attack, and I tried to use the shovel I had to hit it with. Thing went under and to the side faster than I could comprehend and latched unto the sensitive (and blood vessel filled) flesh of my inner thigh. It missed my happy sack by a hair (note to those arguing on undies thread, if I was wearing boxers and had them hanging, I might be missing an egg and possibly the tip of the bacon now. Wearing briefs may have saved my future kid's life.) Darned little thing went right through my tough work jeans and ended up making huge gashes in my leg until it was called off. You would not believe how much area ONE bite from a stinking dog can damage. I lost a ton of blood, and still have scars to this day. I think that if I had a pistol, that filthy little thing would have had no head.

PS: I would like to see those statistics.
PPS: You now all know why I hate small dogs so much. :P The darned things are vicious.

[Fixiwee]

PS: I would like to see those statistics.

Sure.


Hit Potential In Gun Fights

The police officer's potential for hitting his adversary during armed
confrontation has increased over the years and stands at slightly over 25% of
the rounds fired. An assailant's skill was 11% in 1979.

In 1990 the overall police hit potential was 19%. Where distances could be
determined, the hit percentages at distances under 15 yards were:

Less than 3 yards ..... 38%
3 yards to 7 yards .. 11.5%
7 yards to 15 yards .. 9.4%

In 1992 the overall police hit potential was 17%. Where distances could be
determined, the hit percentages at distances under 15 yards were:

Less than 3 yards ..... 28%
3 yards to 7 yards .... 11%
7 yards to 15 yards . 4.2%
http://www.virginiacops.org/Articles...ing/Combat.htm

Those are statistics for specially trained people who eat too many donuts. But anyway, it shows how difficult it is to shoot moving stuff, and our view on gun fights have been tainted by hollywood.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I know it can be dangerous, and I know what boars are capable of.
I know that boars can be killed with spear, and I know that this is still done in the USA (and that foreign hunters apparently come to do it).
I do not want to throw a spear (which seems kind of silly anyway).
I am smart enough to hunt in a group and with backup (which seems to be how it is generally done in the Southern USA when spears are used).
I do not have anything to prove - I want to know more about what it is like.
There isn't much chance of me doing this for at least another two years.
Panzer has helped me quite a bit in this thread, and I thank him for that.

More questions?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I don't know, I can always compromise.

[Hosakawa Tito]

I can understand using an atlatl to hunt boar as long as one had a gun backing them up. However, using a neanderthal stabbing spear seems a bit too risky.

[KukriKhan]

Texas.

Bring Crazed Rabbit with his full arsenal with you, for backup, and SFTS for pix and morale support (and the hunting license).

Hunt at dawn, and rotisserie slow-roast that sucker all day, open-pit, lotsa smoke. Drink German beer.

If the spear thing actually worked, have it bronzed, to mount under the tusks to hang on your library wall, so you tell your grankids about the time you hunted in the wild, wild west.

[Vuk]

I can understand using an atlatl to hunt boar as long as one had a gun backing them up. However, using a neanderthal stabbing spear seems a bit too risky.

lol, the atlatl takes a LOONG time to get even half way decent with, trust me. If you plan on hitting a moving target with it, you better practice a loooooot before hand.

[Crazed Rabbit]

We already had this discussion and I'm not going to revive it. By law, I'm not even allowed to hold a gun for the next 10 years, because I refused millitary service and did civil service instead.

Anyways...

Anyway, I read a statistic 2 weeks ago, that an american trained policeman has a chance of hitting a moving target at 3 feet at about 21%-25%. That decreases to under 10% up over 10 feet.

I wouldn't be surprised. But hunters are generally better shots; they shoot for fun. It's not a work obligation, it's a hobby. Many cops don't shoot very often; sometimes just to qualify once or twice a year.

What I am saying, shooting a gun at a fast moving small animal that's in rage and wounded is nigh impossible.

Simplified, though, by the fact that the animal is going to come straight at you.

piglets (thanks for the one who will teach me the proper english word)

I believe that is it.

*hopefully he's a better shot than Dick Cheney*

I know not to shoot at something without knowing what's behind it.

CR