Hey hey hey! That's true about quantity, but till the reform! you know, I underestiamted those jugontis xatiska (young clubmen) with 3 or fous chevron, two of them just EAT the pedites extraordinarii and spit the rest behind! so good for quantity, but I can assure that quality (and mostly experiance) make a real differance! and a couple of those apea gaedoto do miracle with their axe! hmmm, but still, must built a lvl 3 temple in each of my cities (gruesome amout of money there) But at the end, it pays off to train a unit with gold chevron at base!!! so circle of Deiwoz plus field game plus blacksmith (when i capture cities with it, otherwise, it's too expensive for my really crappy finances) = Nightmare of roman!!! I just captured rome by the way, and Roleplay-wise, should I destroy their marvel inside (that ubber temple of Jupiter that worth 20 000 mnai?