Barbarian Goods and Bads! everybody welcome!!!

[Maion Maroneios]

The Hellen in me screams that I should say Barbaroi are Barbaroi. Filthy, smelly, uncivilised. The worse of the worse. But on a serious note, I don't really think the Suebi are underpowered. They are just (and I guess historically were) more "primitive" than the rest of the factions, meaning they have a more "primitive" (almost naked?) style of combat. Plus, from what I've learned playing the Sweboz for a while, they didn't have easy access to materials like iron, preferring spears and clubs for their heavier dependance of wood (which was rather plentiful that time, they didn't wipe their arses with consentrated tree substance that time ).

As for which "barbarian" faction I believe is the best, or better the coolest, I would have to vote for the Lusotannan. They have cool units, and have great potential. Their excellent armour and guerilla tactics, as well as a possibility of more Roman-like "manipular" formations, make their armies quite impressive on the battlefield.

Maion

[Duguntz]

The sweboz aren't underpowered in overall, but it is a fact that they are at a disadventage at every levels before their reform! It's a challange and make it fun though, to fight legion with almost naked guys! and I like to imagine the face of the roman in front of such a fight! The Romans were indeed, scared of gauls for that reason. The problem, is that the early Gauls and Germans were indeed HUGE and muscular men, most of them, and their shield were too narow to offer good protection against the javelins of the velites and the pilae of the Romans... Argh... sorry, when i start to talk about history, I can't stop! Back to the topic!!!

why I think Sweboz are rally nice to play? I just love seeing the mighty legions being routed by naked men!, surprise attack, fear effect, yeah, those are a real pleasure to play, and even more to role-play!!!

[DaciaJC]

Getai are my favorite. The kings of shock infantry, I refer to them. Drapanai, Rhomphaiaphoroi, Traikioi Peltastai... heh.

A diverse unit roster (already mentioned) and a close proximity to the drowning-in-money Hellenes mean the Getai can experience much of both the military and economic worlds.

[Tristuskhan]

Getai are my favorite. The kings of shock infantry, I refer to them. Drapanai, Rhomphaiaphoroi, Traikioi Peltastai... heh.

A diverse unit roster (already mentioned) and a close proximity to the drowning-in-money Hellenes mean the Getai can experience much of both the military and economic worlds.

Very true, they also have easy access to Cordinau Orca, an outstanding heavy infantry, plus elite archers (scythians) and good enough horse archers (scythian riders), making one of the most versatile roaster in the game.

In spite of all those qualities, I got my a** handed to me when I met Pahlava in Tarsos during my getai campaign...

[Duguntz]

The only problem with the getai, (i think ,I'm no getai expert) is that, although good front line infantry, they rely a lot on skirmishing unit (i must admit that their heavy peltast are great!) wich is usedul against less moblie force, like Mak pikemen and Hellen phalanx, but rather fare poorly against other shock infantry, especially with AP attribute.

the two nicier ''pool'' of units still belong to Getai, and Lusotann. Ha, but nothin's comparable to those fantastic (and unfortunatly only mercenary) German Worgozez... Is there any way to recruit those wild wolf-men? Anyway, I agree with you, Frontline1944 (are you born on a 6 june? t'would be in accordance with your name! ) that Geati can be a great experiance of barbarians tactic and decent economy at the same time...

Still, I hope I'm not the only one here to find that wild side of the swebos attractive!

[bobbin]

The Sweboz can get massive XP boosts from their buildings (something like 3 or 4 chevs) which make up for the lack of armour early on, also if your willing to take on one of those horrendous rebel stacks in central europe and capture the province you get access to the Boii Cingetos, excellent troops who are essentially celtic legionnares.

As for favourite barbaroi faction I'd say the Lusotanna and they really do have an amazing unit roster(possibly best of all the factions), the only niggle being that it is all confined in or near iberia, unlike the celts who can get good troops practically everywhere.

[satalexton]

The Romaioi. I can never get tired of shacking their capital Barbaropolis. Subsequently I occasionally Roleplay a romani campaign which consist of Barbarpolis getting burned to the ground by mighty Makedonia.

[Fluvius Camillus]

Ah another fine joke of Satalexton which we've never heard...

I have not played a barbarian faction yet, although I want to in the future, this thread is a nice one for picking the best choice for me.

What do the Sweboz reforms grant exactly?

I guess these guys, correct me if I'm wrong though..

Thegnoz Drugule (Germanic Heavy Infantry) and Marhathegnoz (Germanic Heavy Cavalry)?


~Fluvius

[athanaric]

the two nicier ''pool'' of units still belong to Getai, and Lusotann. Ha, but nothin's comparable to those fantastic (and unfortunatly only mercenary) German Worgozez... Is there any way to recruit those wild wolf-men?

I'm afraid there isn't, unless you mod them to be recruitable. After all, they really aren't regular troops...