Results 1 to 26 of 26

Thread: The Problem With Sieges...

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Near East TW Mod Leader Member Cute Wolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    In ancient Middle East, driving Assyrian war machines...
    Posts
    3,991
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    And the conclusion... siege with overwhelming troops, but you don't want to assault (wait them until death), is best with captains...

    My Projects : * Near East Total War * Nusantara Total War * Assyria Total War *
    * Watch the mind-blowing game : My Little Ponies : The Mafia Game!!! *

    Also known as SPIKE in TWC

  2. #2
    Xsaçapāvan é Skudra Member Atraphoenix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    İstanbul, Turkey
    Posts
    1,402

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    And the conclusion... siege with overwhelming troops, but you don't want to assault (wait them until death), is best with captains...
    agreed, if you want to starve them besiege with captians not with generals.



    My Submods for EB
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    My AAR/Guides How to assault cities with Horse Archers? RISE OF ARSACIDS! (A Pahlava AAR) - finished
    History is written by the victor." Winston Churchill

  3. #3
    Member Member Sabazios's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    35

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    And the conclusion... siege with overwhelming troops, but you don't want to assault (wait them until death), is best with captains...
    when possible, I keep my general at the border of my own territory in a fort and send him to lead the final assault (or the last year of a siege when waiting for enemy to sally).

  4. #4
    Villiage Idiot Member antisocialmunky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    ゞ( ゚Д゚)ゞ
    Posts
    5,974

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    It would be interesting if EB II implemented more stringent siege cons for the besiege. Right now its just the supply stuff, but would it be possible to increase the upkeep of units that are besieging due to depletion of local resources and water supplies?
    Fighting isn't about winning, it's about depriving your enemy of all options except to lose.



    "Hi, Billy Mays Here!" 1958-2009

  5. #5
    EB TRIBVNVS PLEBIS Member MarcusAureliusAntoninus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    The State of Jefferson, USA
    Posts
    5,722

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    Getting bad traits with your general is the only way to simulate bad conditions for the besieger. By holding your general back until the last turn, you are exploiting the system.


  6. #6
    Xsaçapāvan é Skudra Member Atraphoenix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    İstanbul, Turkey
    Posts
    1,402

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus View Post
    Getting bad traits with your general is the only way to simulate bad conditions for the besieger. By holding your general back until the last turn, you are exploiting the system.
    I always assault or in VH AI mostly sallies after I press end turn. But after I got 15- 20 cities they are afraid they do not send reinforcements they do not sally.
    at least on alex.

    I am blitzer so I have no chance to wait AI to surrender but think about casse and early getai. They do not have any luxury to lose



    My Submods for EB
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    My AAR/Guides How to assault cities with Horse Archers? RISE OF ARSACIDS! (A Pahlava AAR) - finished
    History is written by the victor." Winston Churchill

  7. #7
    Villiage Idiot Member antisocialmunky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    ゞ( ゚Д゚)ゞ
    Posts
    5,974

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus View Post
    Getting bad traits with your general is the only way to simulate bad conditions for the besieger. By holding your general back until the last turn, you are exploiting the system.
    :-p So are you saying that we are cheating by starving the enemy out?
    Fighting isn't about winning, it's about depriving your enemy of all options except to lose.



    "Hi, Billy Mays Here!" 1958-2009

  8. #8
    EB TRIBVNVS PLEBIS Member MarcusAureliusAntoninus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    The State of Jefferson, USA
    Posts
    5,722

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    :-p So are you saying that we are cheating by starving the enemy out?
    No, I'm saying that you are cheating by starving out the enemy while your army does not starve.


  9. #9
    Member Member Svenn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    24

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    The funny thing is - i started a Casse campaign 2 days ago, and if it wasnt for this "feature" id still be fighting for Caledonia by now. But as it happens, ive got land in Gaul...

  10. #10
    Satalextos Basileus Seron Member satalexton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    1,180

    Default Re: The Problem With Sieges...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabazios View Post
    when possible, I keep my general at the border of my own territory in a fort and send him to lead the final assault (or the last year of a siege when waiting for enemy to sally).
    reminds me of blackadder goes forth




    "ΜΗΔΕΝ ΕΩΡΑΚΕΝΑΙ ΦΟΒΕΡΩΤΕΡΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΔΕΙΝΟΤΕΡΟΝ ΦΑΛΑΓΓΟΣ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΗΣ" -Lucius Aemilius Paullus

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO