Atraphoenix 22:29 05-19-2009
I do not evaluate the worth but I can assure you Pahlava is the strongest nomadic faction plus it is a new-born dragon in the land of dying lion (AS). Grivpandars are immortals of Pahlava they even can annihilate a unit of Argyraspides from frontal charge!
Pahlava, if only because their buildings are Eastern style rather than Nomad/Barbarian style. I hate huge empires of barbarian cities--I wept when in my current Sauromatae game the two Crimean cities went up in population and had to be converted to barbarian-looking cities.
I quite like the sauro's because it is quite easy for them to ride west and destroy European civilisation.
In my last sauro campaign I grabbed most of the starting cavalry and 4 or 5 FM's and went on a rampage to the west.
Every city that I took in the west, I tore down EVERY building and then left it to revolt back to who I took it from.
First I took on the getai since their lack of armour made them ideal targets for my HA's, I wasn't intending to, but I accidentally wiped them out within 2 years of starting the campaign
I then continued westwards and attacked one of the more northerly epirote cities. I then moved on to the gallic towns in northern italy, and after that I went down the western side of italy, sacking everything in my path. I then went and destroyed everything in sicily and went back up through italy, this time along the eastern half.
After devastating early rome I went and destroyed everything in greece. Sacking first Dalminion, then Epidamnos, Ambrakia, Thermon, Korinthos, Athenai, Chalikis, Athenai, Demetrias, and then Pella. After all this I was obscenely rich and there was no monument left untouched in greece. The reason I left out sparte was because it was just a town and hardly worth taking, and because I felt like making KH into a small superpower. They had already become much stronger since I had sacked italy as the greek towns there had rebelled back to KH, and now, all the city I took in greece were rebelling back to KH. By the time I left, I had basically wiped out centuries of greek civilisation and left the KH a fresh slate to start with.
With the spoils of war I recruited a huge horde of nomad archers and went on a rampage, crushing hayasdan, pontos, and causing terrible damage to the AS, who in a strange twist were becoming the first gray tide tide I had ever seen, following my attacks however the yellow death quickly made it's return. After this however I gave up on the campaign as the fun of crushing those infantry armies in the west had been lost.
Maion Maroneios 07:45 05-20-2009
Originally Posted by Atraphoenix:
they even can annihilate a unit of Argyraspides from frontal charge!
That's just plain hubris! I'm going to prove your blasphemy wrong this evening!
Maion
Cute Wolf 08:06 05-20-2009
Yess.... Gripanvar is quite strong.....
im 12 turns off grivpavnars in my pahlavan campaign! hahahaha
but are you sure that they can frontal charge argyraspid? if they can then obviously we need to balance the game a little.
Cute Wolf 08:46 05-20-2009
Repeat..... 4 units of gripanvar against 1 Argyraspids.... Their high morale can made them a good tank (although frontal charging an Argyraspids is waste off 50% of them)...... I do this often in bridge battle against grey death..... (When Gripanvar are the only hope (although losing 2 units of them against argyraspids are not an efficient tactics.... call this sacrifice

) They didn't rebalancing.. look at the cost!!!
Atraphoenix 10:21 05-20-2009
Just simple order loose formation, after frontal charge order them to use their swords.
They starts to envelop Argyraspides then Argyraspides abandons Phalanx. but nearly %70- 80 casulty.
In first assault you may lose 15- 18 men. I tested on Alex, medium difficulty on grassy flatland. Of course against AI.
Cute Wolf 10:30 05-20-2009
Can't use loose order, because this was bridge battle....
BTW... all nomads need at least one extremely tough HC for bridge breaching... Only Phalavans and Saka (Ysainu Ajiramsya) did... The Sauro didn't
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