Which Nomads are worthy to rule?

[HunGeneral]

im a proud sweboz and Kh fan, however when i played with sauromatae i liked them a lot, its good to see a lot of horse archers making a massacre out of those little footmen. however i stoped when i reached those gawjam...citys, i couldnt attack em, i just cant kill my dear swebozz

Hmm. You know if you wish you could roleplay that after conqeuering the first gawjam xy city a great and famous Germaic warlord has offered you his services if you provide him with the means to unite the Germanic tribes... (just recruit a germanic mercenary general, give him an army of germanic aor units and do what you always wanted to do...). Thats what I did in my recent Saka camapign in India - figuring the terain (in my case jungle, in yours forest of north Europe) is not ideal for Nomadic warfare I support a local warlord who is willing to conquer these lands with his men if he may rule over it as King (and my eterlnal ally - he might even allow some of your tribesmen to settle in some areas).

I think this could be a great way of roleplay (and a little different from all thoose HA battles), I am doing it with India and will try it with Thrakians and Gemans... maybe even with Britons one day....

Hope this will be usefull to you

[J.R.M]

Thx for the idea. however i already finished that campaign a long time ago (i must admit, i made a massacre out of my poor sweboz, first time and last that i will kill them i swear!)

Anaway thx again for the idea, maybe for next time i need to forgive some sweboz lifes.. Cheers

[Marcus Ulpius]

I've tried all 3 nomad campaigns (can't say that I liked them more than infantry based campaigns, guess I'm infantry man). I didn't finish any of them, but the only one that I plan finishing is the Saka campaign.

Sauros - were too dull. No reforms, no new units - just the same old HA's till the end.

Pahlava - probably too hard for me. I know they have great potential, but their starting position is horrible. From turn one you are fighting to death with AS. Sometimes AS will be occupied elsewhere, but sometimes they will send pretty impressive stacks at you. Your economy is awful, you can't support more than tiny garrisons and the only army you have are your FM's. At the same time there's a risk of being attacked by Saka or Bactria which will effectively put an end to your campaign.

Saka - I enjoyed (and still enjoying) them the most. They have much better position. Their reform reqs are much simpler than Pahlva has. They can not be attacked on 2 fronts if you play it smart. I blitzed Bactria out of existence (poor Bactria - I really like that faction). Pahlava can attack me only in one place which is very well defended. I swept through Eastern AS making my way to Indian Ocean and Persepolis. AS seem unable to cope with my HA and in Bactra and Kophen I already train heavy hoplits, while Pahlava will soon meet my Cata's. Economy is weak, but at least I can train new units and support some garrisons.

One downside to all nomad factions - you MUST blitz. Your economy is too weak to support anything and you must expand as fast as possible to be able to train any units.

[athanaric]

Don't forget though that Pahlava, unlike the other two, can build up a very strong economy in Persian territory. You just need to be patient...

[Atraphoenix]

I've tried all 3 nomad campaigns (can't say that I liked them more than infantry based campaigns, guess I'm infantry man). I didn't finish any of them, but the only one that I plan finishing is the Saka campaign.

Sauros - were too dull. No reforms, no new units - just the same old HA's till the end.

Pahlava - probably too hard for me. I know they have great potential, but their starting position is horrible. From turn one you are fighting to death with AS. Sometimes AS will be occupied elsewhere, but sometimes they will send pretty impressive stacks at you. Your economy is awful, you can't support more than tiny garrisons and the only army you have are your FM's. At the same time there's a risk of being attacked by Saka or Bactria which will effectively put an end to your campaign.

Saka - I enjoyed (and still enjoying) them the most. They have much better position. Their reform reqs are much simpler than Pahlva has. They can not be attacked on 2 fronts if you play it smart. I blitzed Bactria out of existence (poor Bactria - I really like that faction). Pahlava can attack me only in one place which is very well defended. I swept through Eastern AS making my way to Indian Ocean and Persepolis. AS seem unable to cope with my HA and in Bactra and Kophen I already train heavy hoplits, while Pahlava will soon meet my Cata's. Economy is weak, but at least I can train new units and support some garrisons.

One downside to all nomad factions - you MUST blitz. Your economy is too weak to support anything and you must expand as fast as possible to be able to train any units.

I mostly do not stop blitzing until I captured Antiocheia.

[Andy1984]

Another advice when playing Pahlava (that at least worked for me) is to use your spies to check which settlements already have mines. Capturing two or three of them really makes a difference.

[Marcus Ulpius]

That's what helped me in my Saka campaign. One town had upgraded mines and capturing it allowed me to have something resembling working economy. My Pahlava campaign was brought to and end by full stack of phalanxes from the west and Saka invasion from the east. I still couldn't train any units and my FMs were the only army I had.

[Atraphoenix]

After you activate normal EB script, press F1 then press ? , activate the generic script which really helps you it activates toggle_perfect_spy that you cannot activate with the command shell.