Catholic Church in deeep water.

[tibilicus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8060442.stm

All I can say is I'm shocked, yet some how I'm not surprised. Yet again an institution who's purpose is to protect the vulnerable in society can some how turn its back on those very duties and commit such disgusting abuses. What makes this even worse is that the Church hierarchy knew such abuse was taking place yet they chose not to do anything about it.

As many people here know, I'm critical of organised religion at the best of times, but this has really got me riled up. How can some one claim to commit themselves to a life of helping others and committing themselves to God and yet at the same time abuse an innocent child. If you read some articles the abuse is really quite shocking.

A lot of people refer to the Catholic church as the worlds biggest charity but I ask you this, how can a charity possibility have any credibility if it's leading members act like this? It seems the Catholic Church as an institution still seems to think you can get into heaven via indulgences and that being a good person isn't part of the deal..

[Samurai Waki]

Just disgusting. I'm not mad entirely at the Catholic Church for this, I'm also mad at Ireland for not prosecuting these scumbags.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

It seems your problem is mostly with the Irish government for not prosecuting...they seem to be much more callous about the issue than the Church, as you can see here:

The leader of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales, the Most Reverend Vincent Nichols, said those who perpetrated violence and abuse should be held to account, "no matter how long ago it happened".

"Every time there is a single incident of abuse in the Catholic Church, it is a scandal. I would be very worried if it wasn't a scandal... I hope these things don't happen again, but I hope they're never a matter of indifference," he said.

I think every Catholic will agree with you that this is disgusting.

It seems the Catholic Church as an institution still seems to think you can get into heaven via indulgences and that being a good person isn't part of the deal..

Do you have any idea what indulgences or confession are?

[tibilicus]

Do you have any idea what indulgences or confession are?

Yes I do know what indulgences are. They were basically bits of parchment which could be purchased back in the 16th century which pardoned a number of sins. Lead to the 95 Theses after whichever Pope it was tried to use indulgences to pay for St. Peters Basilica.

Reason I mentioned that is because to me that sums up some parts the Catholic Church as an institution. By that I mean institutions which really aren't committed to the spiritual services to God.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yes I do know what indulgences are. They were basically bits of parchment which could be purchased back in the 16th century which pardoned a number of sins.

Kind of right, but mostly not.

By that I mean institutions which really aren't committed to the spiritual services to God.

You're an atheist, are you not?

[tibilicus]

Kind of right, but mostly not.



You're an atheist, are you not?

How so? Please enlighten me to your true definition and sum it up in two lines preferably like I did.


And I'm more Agnostic than Atheist. It's not so much that I don't believe there is a God, more I don't really care. Also you should know I'm not trying to attack Catholics as individuals, I'm more highlighting my grievances with the Catholic Church as an institution.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Big. Jock. Knew.

A case of sexual abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland? That's hardly anything new, they'll never get true justice.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

This story is 30 years old, it's in the news now because of the report.

[A Terribly Harmful Name]

I think the Catholic Church has already outlived its purpose on the world. Tear them down.

[Furunculus]

I think the Catholic Church has already outlived its purpose on the world. Tear them down.

we're a couple of hundred years ahead of you.

[tibilicus]

Big. Jock. Knew.

A case of sexual abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland? That's hardly anything new, they'll never get true justice.

Surely that leads to the question then of why on earth the Catholic Church is receiving such protection from the Irish government?