Seleucid Reforms Questions

**Ramistrov** · 05-21-2009, 22:10

My apologies if this has been covered before!

"-At least year 253BC
-Two different generals must loose a large battle (including a loss to the general's bodyguard) against a faction that uses cataphracts (Pahlav, Armenia, Baktria)."

1. As mentioned above do I need to lose two battles in the same turn with two seperate generals against one of the mentioned cultures? or is that twice ever irrelevent of turn?

2. When it says (including a loss to the General's Bodyguard) does that mean i have to kill my general or just have some of his retinue killed off?

3. Do the enemy have to actually have Cataphracts on the field in that battle or does that not matter as long as they are a culture that can use them?

Many thanks for any replies and again my apologies if these have been answered previously as I cannot find any concrete answers for the questions above.

**anubis88** · 05-21-2009, 22:28

1) it's irrelevant when you loose
2) no the general must survive, he must just loose some of his bodyguards
3) the enemy must have catas on the field

**Ramistrov** · 05-22-2009, 19:31

Many thanks for your reply.

**Tartaros** · 05-23-2009, 15:07

The Generals become a new trait: "impressed by Cataphracts".
Meening they´r so facinated, that they are helping to develop the new class of helenic heavy cav, next to the hetairoi.
the process need some (2 or 3 ?) years.