Drapanai too strong.....

**Aemilius Paulus** · 05-23-2009, 03:54

Well, if you want melee infantry that is good against Drapnai, go for the ones with almost no armour and plenty of defensive skill. That will help against the AP bonus. The high lethality will still inflict griveous casualties, as will the gnerally lower defence of no-armour infantry. But hey at least it is cheaper, thus more effective. Also, of course, pick the ones with more javelins if possible.

**A Terribly Harmful Name** · 05-23-2009, 04:11

Drapanai and their stronger rhompaia bearing cousins are excellent phalanx breakers. I might have mentioned this before many times, but I'll do it again; they come in two flavours: rhomphaia guys if you want an elite, "fewer men the greater share of honour" way of slaughtering the enemy, or just drapanai if you run by the philosophy of sheer numbers of men. Both are only good on the offensive.

To defeat them you need something strong against them: usually a line of archers and spearmen for the Drapanai, or anything that can run well and throw a missile well. Against the Rhomphaia guys you would do better to hide behind a pole or charge them in the rear while holding them with cheap troops. Most arrows seem to be harmless on them.

**Aemilius Paulus** · 05-23-2009, 04:16

Originally Posted by Christopher Burgoyne

Against the Rhomphaia guys you would do better to hide behind a pole or charge them in the rear while holding them with cheap troops. Most arrows seem to be harmless on them.

Are you kidding? They die pretty quickly from arrows, and very quickly from javelins. In hand to hand combat, however, they can even defeat Gaesatae. Tested that about 6 times on flat terrain, normal weather, custom battle. Won all of the times, with anywhere from 20 to 45 men left (Large Unit Size)

**A Terribly Harmful Name** · 05-23-2009, 04:23

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

Are you kidding? They die pretty quickly from arrows, and very quickly from javelins. In hand to hand combat, however, they can even defeat Gaesatae. Tested that about 6 times on flat terrain, normal weather, custom battle. Won all of the times, with anywhere from 20 to 45 men left (Large Unit Size)

I mean the heavily armored guys, they have a high defense and even a shield. Javelins seem to fare better against them.

**antisocialmunky** · 05-23-2009, 04:52

The most ridiculous unit on the Getai Roster are their decently armored sickel sword wielding medium phalanxes. I've had mostly bad days against those guys...

**Maion Maroneios** · 05-23-2009, 13:36

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

The most ridiculous unit on the Getai Roster are their decently armored sickel sword wielding medium phalanxes. I've had mostly bad days against those guys...

I agree, those guys are killers. Especially those well-armoured Thorakitai Stratiotai. But of course, they are no match for my pikemen.

Maion

**athanaric** · 05-23-2009, 16:18

By the way, the Thorakitai Stratiotai are almost identical stat wise to the KH's Thorakitai Hoplitai, the only real difference being the secondary weapon (Thorakitai Hoplitai have an AP kopis).

**Andy1984** · 05-23-2009, 04:12

Someone mentioned akontistai? These guys are dirtcheap, have 240 men (which means lots of javelins and dozens of men to keep these barbarians busy) and almost everywhere available.