What suggested faction should be in EBII

[Alsatia]

As I got the the completely useless award for my last thread, here is something for everyone to talk about. What suggested faction/s should be in EBII? There are only 10 slots so go debating. If I missed anything, I am so sorry.

[Cute Wolf]

Finally, a really useful thread... here's a baloon ...

[bobbin]

I shoud mention that a Nubian faction has been ruled out by the team due to culture limit issues, don't think they were too keen on a Mauryan satrap either.

[artaxerxes]

Voted for Syracuse, Bosporans and Numidia. But really, Syracuse is the only one I really really really really really want. Bosporans would be fun too (especially if there are more barbarians up there so they don't go making a baltic empire), while Numidia is needed to spice things up for Carthage.

But would have voted thrice for Syracuse alone, could I have done so ;) it's the only one I seriously care about. Except for that, EB is so perfect, I have a hard time imagining whatever the team might possibly do with the remaining slots???

[Reno Melitensis]

Voted for Syracuse, Bosphorian Kingdom and the Boii. An other gallic faction like the Boii will give the Getai and Sweboz a challenge. I think with the Belgae, Gaul will be over crowded.

Cheers.

[Alsatia]

Belgae will probably be a buffer faction between those gallic tribes and sweboz.

A crowded gaul and germany would be feasible because that was what they were, a bunch of disunited tribes and confederacies trying to kill each other and stab each other in the back (according to the Romans) until Caesar's Conquest and Vercingetorix' rebellion.

I paticularly like the idea of Syrakousai. Kyrene won't be such a bad thing as well really.

[Ibrahim]

Voted for Syracuse, Bosporans and Numidia. But really, Syracuse is the only one I really really really really really want. Bosporans would be fun too (especially if there are more barbarians up there so they don't go making a baltic empire), while Numidia is needed to spice things up for Carthage.

But would have voted thrice for Syracuse alone, could I have done so ;) it's the only one I seriously care about. Except for that, EB is so perfect, I have a hard time imagining whatever the team might possibly do with the remaining slots???

same, but added nabataea.

[J.R.M]

I voted:
Syracuse: interesting how it will develope against romans and carthies

Belgae: oh!! i just want more bloody war in gaul, and to see my sweboz armies crushing more enemies.

Numidia: would be interesting to see those carthies with some trouble at the begining

[Moros]

same, but added nabataea.

Finally some love for the Arabian peninsula. A place often forgotten when it comes to history especially in pre-islamic times. Even though it's one of the places with the oldest settlements and a place with very interesting people, art, technology... Sad that it's usually only mesopotamia, egypt, India, China and the classicworld that get all the attention. :(

And the nabatae wouldn't be such a bad choice imo, though I'm not sure if they'd have a decent army especially at the beginning of the game and if they would be able to fend of the superpowers that neighbour it, with a single province and such a probably very light army.

[Alsatia]

Wow. Everyone seems to favour The Belgae, Syrakousai, the Bosporian Kingdom, Celtibera and the Boii.



The winners????

[artaxerxes]

It seems there's a great deal of coherence here. Most people seem (to my enjoyment) to agree that Syracuse, Numidia, Boii and Belgae are perhaps the most needed, to spice things up in their respective areas, and then there are fx the Bosporans, whom we all think it could be fun to try. But I don't think you should count on finding a winner. We don't rule the EB team (or I'd have bloody well forced the Syracusans on them already) so it's just gonna be fun to see this thread in a while, when even more have voted but great idea for a thread really, this should have replaced the 'which factions do you want in EB'-thread long ago

[Alsatia]

Well, the winners of the poll will probably be unknown because the poll is indefinite. I know that this thread will do little to change the team's minds but it is good to know what people really want.

[Zett]

I want to see Massalia. I always loved the combination out of greek and celts. Also it would slow down the Romani and Lusotanna expansion if KI controlled. Massaliotai Hoplitai.

Syracousai would be fine too, but afaik there are still problems with sources about their military, which units they used and so on. Make a mix out of Greek Hoplites and Liby-Phoenician units won't do it in my opinion.

A Bosphorian Kingdom, same as Massalia, mixed factions are always fun to play. Thureopherontes Toxotai (Bosphoran Heavy Archers) have I to say something else? A problem is perhaps a too ahistorical expansion into the steppes.

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam

[Alsatia]

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam

I'm seeing that everywhere. Can someone tell me what this means?

Anyone know any possible factions that are not on the poll??

[Krusader]

I want to see Massalia. I always loved the combination out of greek and celts. Also it would slow down the Romani and Lusotanna expansion if KI controlled. Massaliotai Hoplitai.

Syracousai would be fine too, but afaik there are still problems with sources about their military, which units they used and so on. Make a mix out of Greek Hoplites and Liby-Phoenician units won't do it in my opinion.

A Bosphorian Kingdom, same as Massalia, mixed factions are always fun to play. Thureopherontes Toxotai (Bosphoran Heavy Archers) have I to say something else? A problem is perhaps a too ahistorical expansion into the steppes.

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam

Massilia. That's almost like picking Andorra for a WW2 game over Finland, Hungary or Romania.

[IrishHitman]

18 votes for Judea?

Where are the 18 votes for an Irish faction?!
The geographical span would be wider than Judea.

I think modern politics are getting too involved if 18 people decided that a near-irrelevent state with a tiny geographical span would be given a faction. Their region(s) should be given a higher rebellion/unrest rate, that's about it in terms of historical importance for the time period EB is in.

My votes went to the Belgae (to balance the German hordes and the Aedui/Arverni), and Celtiberia (to better reflect the troubled nature of the Iberian peninsula)...

[Leão magno]

Since I love Punic wars, I voted for Syracuse (the must have one for greeks, Epirotes and Punic wars) e and Numidia (the second already confirmed by EB team - though I would vote fo a second one), The Celtiberians and some other Iberian faction. Kyrene would be a good call too.

[Tanit]

Since I love Punic wars, I voted for Syracuse (the must have one for greeks, Epirotes and Punic wars) e and Numidia (the second already confirmed by EB team - though I would vote fo a second one), The Celtiberians and some other Iberian faction. Kyrene would be a good call too.

Well if someone were to make Punic Wars mod you would see a lot of fascinating factions. On top of the Massylians in Africa you would see the Massaesylians, the Maures, and the Garamantines. In Sicily there would be Syracuse and the Mammertines. In Northern Spain and Southern France there would be Massalia with its colony of Emporion. Not to mention all of the Iberian factions.

[lionhard]

Another spanish faction would be good, lustaonna seems to spread like wild fire as the campaign proceeds in EB1

[Satyros]

I voted for Syracuse , the Bosphorian Kingdom and the Belgae , but I would like to see another faction on the British isles too and another Germanic faction .

Just a question for the team however , though slightly off topic . Do you estimate/believe that there will be a problem with the number of unit slots since there will be a whole bunch of new factions ?

For example , is there a need to have two versions of some units in the game unit roster ( a normal and a mercenary one ) ?

Could the same unit slot easily belong to both " unit pools " ( but with a different upkeep cost ) ?

I know nothing of these mechanics but oversimplifying things I believe that the unit slots available are more than enough if the answer to the question in italics is "yes" .

And now for a really off topic question , I can't control myself I just want to know ; what do you intend to do with the "free upkeep" feature ?

There , I'm completely off topic , beat me to death , but tell me first .

Pretty please ?

heh

Satyros

[Ghaust the Moor]

I only voted for massailia, but I would have voted for more had I known it was a multiple choice quiz. I would have voted: Massalia, Boii, Bastarnea, Emporion, and other (Cause I want GOIDILS!!!!!!)

[Alexandros_III]

I say the mod's just not complete without Judea. It is really the only one on the list that was truely important in any way. The others would just be need to have.

[Foot]

I say the mod's just not complete without Judea. It is really the only one on the list that was truely important in any way. The others would just be need to have.

How, in any way, was Judea "truely important" during this period?

Foot

[Moros]

How, in any way, was Judea "truely important" during this period?

Foot

Well it would be a very unique faction as in contrast to all others it wouldn't even exist more than half our time frame!

[Satyros]

I'd say that the "con" arguments were convincing enough not to include this faction .

Satyros

[Megas Methuselah]

I say the mod's just not complete without Judea. It is really the only one on the list that was truely important in any way. The others would just be need to have.

ROFLMFAO R U SERIOUS??!

[Alsatia]

I'm afraid he is......

[m046720]

What about a Galatian faction in modern day turkey area? There is a decent amount of history on it. I can dig some up. Tell what everyone thinks.

[Phalanx300]

I would like a Galatian faction as well, the point is that in the area there are now 4 factions and adding Galatia means 5 factions there.

And we have alot of areas on the map where there are none or just one faction.

Though Galatians would make for some great gameplay.

[a completely inoffensive name]

5 factions battling in Anatolia would be epic. I would love to invade as Rome and have an intelligent AI have the 5 factions unite to expel the Roman invaders with a combined army of hardened Galatians, elite phalanxes, swift chariots and armored cavalry against the best Romans I have to throw at them. If only.....