Genetic structure of the Balkan nations.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

On this side of the pond, the usual answer to the genetic background thing is pretty simple: mutt.

[KukriKhan]

On this side of the pond, the usual answer to the genetic background thing is pretty simple: mutt.

And proud of it.

I watch/listen to these heritage conversations with interest, mostly because the intense attention paid to them is so foreign to my own experience.

Now, if some smart science-type guy could convincingly trace me back to Olduvai Lucy, that would be interesting.

[Louis VI the Fat]

On this side of the pond, the usual answer to the genetic background thing is pretty simple: mutt.

'Mutt-American' is one of the least named hyphenated-American. Only in the Appalachians do Americans overwhelmingly name 'American' as their etnicity.

I say Americans are obsessed with genetic and cultural heritage. The difference is, that Americans overwhelmingly do not build hysterical hyper-nationalistic ideologies around it. It is more personal, more positive. From a sense of personally belonging to instead of excluding others of.

[KukriKhan]

Hey Seamus. I think Louis just called us 'Hillbillies'.

[HoreTore]

'Mutt-American' is one of the least named hyphenated-American. Only in the Appalachians do Americans overwhelmingly name 'American' as their etnicity.

I say Americans are obsessed with genetic and cultural heritage. The difference is, that Americans overwhelmingly do not build hysterical hyper-nationalistic ideologies around it. It is more personal, more positive. From a sense of personally belonging to instead of excluding others of.

Well that's pretty obvious, if they were to build some "hysterical hyper-nationalistic ideology" from it, they would have to move back to Europe, wouldn't they?

[KarlXII]

'Mutt-American' is one of the least named hyphenated-American. Only in the Appalachians do Americans overwhelmingly name 'American' as their etnicity.

I say Americans are obsessed with genetic and cultural heritage. The difference is, that Americans overwhelmingly do not build hysterical hyper-nationalistic ideologies around it. It is more personal, more positive. From a sense of personally belonging to instead of excluding others of.

Ethnic nationalism is hard to put on Americans since American is neither an ethnicity nor a race. We're barely Americans, we're African America, Irish American, Hispanic American. I believe the metling pot is why we've never fallen for complete hyper-nationalistic groups as European countries have. Though, nationalism has occured in periods like the Spanish-American War.

[Mooks]

Ethnic nationalism is hard to put on Americans since American is neither an ethnicity nor a race. We're barely Americans, we're African America, Irish American, Hispanic American. I believe the metling pot is why we've never fallen for complete hyper-nationalistic groups as European countries have. Though, nationalism has occured in periods like the Spanish-American War.

You ever been to the south? It might suprise you.

[Jolt]

You ever been to the south? It might suprise you.

Indeed. Antarctica is much colder than people think.

[Meneldil]

On this side of the pond, the usual answer to the genetic background thing is pretty simple: mutt.

That is not true, or at least, that is not true in Canada.

People there are always bragging about their ancestors, their 'cultural heritage' and what not.

I've met people whose family had been living in Canada for a century, who still claim to be Italians. They don't speak italian, don't have a clue about italian culture or history, but for the sake of looking cool and different, they'll tell everybody that they're 'italian'.
I remember some guy getting mad because a canadian of chinese origins said she was Canadian: he got all angry and said "you're not canadian, you're chinese, just like I'm italian and not canadian".
The same applies to 'Ukrainians', 'Poles', 'Finish', 'Chinese' and to a lesser extant IMO, 'Germans', 'South-Africans' and 'British'.

I'm not even speaking about the numerous China Towns, Little Italies and Little Odessas found in pretty much any decently-sized city in North America. If people trully didn't care about their ethnic origins, they wouldn't stay and live only with people who supposedly share the same 'origins'.

As for the topic itself, I don't really care. I don't really care either if French are mostly of germanic/nordic or latin origins. I don't care if people from Fyrom/Macedonia actually have any link with ancient Macedonians or not, and I'm fairly sure people living in the Balkans don't care aswell and will still hate eachothers for no reasons.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Did they say that "phoenicians" were "Semitic"? I understand that their language was, but supposedly the people were from the Dalmatian costal areas originally. Maybe there was an inverse relationship - Phoenician culture and people moved to the Levant with the "sea peoples", not vica versa. They may have brought the culture and the language may not have stuck. I'm not a geneologist, so I'm not sure if they saw african lineage or simply phoenician markers.

[Papewaio]

I'm a Bitza

Bit's of this and bits of that. Essentially Celtic-Scandinavian.

I got the Welsh dark hair and hazel eyes, but fair skin, my brother the sky-blue eyes, blond hair and tans... the other brother is a red head.