Recruted General and changing Gvt type

**Sabazios** · 05-24-2009, 23:07

Hi,

I've a question about Recruted Generals and changing the goverment type.

In Crete i've got a TypeIV Gvt with a recruted General as a governor. Now I want to build Lvl4 native MIC so I can train Cretan archers. I figured out that i need a type II or III Gvt for that, but will my General become an 'Imposter' then?

**Nachtmeister** · 05-25-2009, 01:07

Yes, he will become an impostor if ruling anything other than a type IV government...
You should move him out of the settlement and use him for another type IV somewhere else - or you could also use him as a relatively mobile field general/watchtower builder...
You *are* playing Koinon Hellenon, right?
In that case, I advise using him for "errand duty" because your factional generals are rather slow on the campaign map ("short range" per turn). Depending on whether he has great traits (athenian, mining master, great architect, tax genius, etc) or bad traits (extravagant, masturbates more than he attends government business, disloyal, anti-social brat, etc) you might also consider charging him frontally into an enemy sarissa phalanx (hellenistic mercenary generals cost roughly a large town's seasonal income per turn, over 1000 mnai).
If you play KH, upon taking Krete, you should immediately build a type I if you can afford it; if not, a type III for trade bonus to be replaced by a type I when you have all of hellas...

**Sabazios** · 05-25-2009, 01:57

So if i undestand it correctly, i can send Recruted Generals wich have been governing TypeIV to other TypeIV cities without giving them bad traits?

In that case I think I'll build a TypeII and ship him to (soon to fall) Pergamum. He's got some nice managing skills, so i I'd like to keep him.

One more question, do they keep the extra influence they get from the retraining (again) or is that limited to the city they are recruited?

I'm playing Epeiros by the way.

**Nachtmeister** · 05-25-2009, 02:03

?
They don't gain influence by re-training at all...
The "client ruler" trait is what gives them influence, apart from other "normal" general-influence, which is also trait-related.
The "client ruler" trait is permanent once they get it - unless you manually "cheat" it away. So yes, they will keep the influence.

**Sabazios** · 05-25-2009, 02:18

that makes sense, i always linked it with retraining

thx again

**Duguntz** · 05-25-2009, 05:23

Originally Posted by Nachtmeister

Yes, he will become an impostor if ruling anything other than a type IV government...
You should move him out of the settlement and use him for another type IV somewhere else - or you could also use him as a relatively mobile field general/watchtower builder...
You *are* playing Koinon Hellenon, right?
In that case, I advise using him for "errand duty" because your factional generals are rather slow on the campaign map ("short range" per turn). Depending on whether he has great traits (athenian, mining master, great architect, tax genius, etc) or bad traits (extravagant, masturbates more than he attends government business, disloyal, anti-social brat, etc) you might also consider charging him frontally into an enemy sarissa phalanx (hellenistic mercenary generals cost roughly a large town's seasonal income per turn, over 1000 mnai).
If you play KH, upon taking Krete, you should immediately build a type I if you can afford it; if not, a type III for trade bonus to be replaced by a type I when you have all of hellas...

No no no, i must disagree here... A general who masturbate a lot means that he didn't forgot completly about his sexual life and so prove that he is still rationalist about the order of priority in things of the life!

**Nachtmeister** · 05-25-2009, 05:49

Originally Posted by Duguntz

No no no, i must disagree here... A general who masturbate a lot means that he didn't forgot completly about his sexual life and so prove that he is still rationalist about the order of priority in things of the life!

Just to clarify: I didn't mean "a lot is too much"; I meant "so much that he is not useful for the empire because he does it to the exclusion of all else".
Granted, if he first developed a "mojo-to-taxrevenue-converter" and then gained the "masturbates constantly" trait, he would be a highly likely candidate to become the new faction heir...

**Duguntz** · 05-25-2009, 05:56

Originally Posted by Nachtmeister

Just to clarify: I didn't mean "a lot is too much"; I meant "so much that he is not useful for the empire because he does it to the exclusion of all else".
Granted, if he first developed a "mojo-to-taxrevenue-converter" and then gained the "masturbates constantly" trait, he would be a highly likely candidate to become the new faction heir...

hmmm that is still to be seen...

well i missunderstood your statement, Masturbate too muce to be of any use, that's what we modernly call Teenager period, but when you're a governor, that's kinda bothering for the empire...
OVERTHROWING the governement because of masturbing prowess and sessions! but that proves that he's a rank up all those INSANE politicals without any judgement for the real needs of their bodily attribute... ha, What world ar we in...

**Apázlinemjó** · 05-25-2009, 07:57

Why would he masturbate when he has money for prostitutes?

**Cute Wolf** · 05-25-2009, 09:33

some men have odd preferences..... maybe he has been bored with his hetaira hyperkalles?

BTW... how to create a GU recruitment that didn't envolve into Client ruler / Allied general?