Sasquatch?

**pevergreen** · 05-25-2009, 07:42

Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Wow, calm down, buddy.

It was a bear. It's always a bear.

Megas is the sasquatch.

**Megas Methuselah** · 05-25-2009, 07:43

Quiet, platypus-boi.

**Fragony** · 05-25-2009, 07:52

Of course it exists, much more fun. If you for for a hike you need campfire story's.

**Axalon** · 05-26-2009, 22:57

Originally Posted by Fragony

Of course it exists, much more fun. If you for for a hike you need campfire story's.

Silly plain 'ol me thinks that Fragony nailed the whole thing right there...
After all, it is much more fun and cool. What more could we possibly ask for?!?

- Cheers
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The Yeti lives! If not, show me absolute proof for it!

**King Jan III Sobieski** · 05-27-2009, 00:58

I think Sasquatch could exsist...but the jury is still definitely out.

**miotas** · 05-27-2009, 03:25

Come on everyone, you need to pull your heads out of the sand, there is no way that sasquatch's exist.

The only real undiscovered hominid is the yowie.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 05-27-2009, 03:39

Originally Posted by miotas

Come on everyone, you need to pull your heads out of the sand, there is no way that sasquatch's exist.

We have our heads out of the sand - that's why we believe!

CR

**pevergreen** · 05-27-2009, 08:12

Originally Posted by miotas

Come on everyone, you need to pull your heads out of the sand, there is no way that sasquatch's exist.

The only real undiscovered hominid is the yowie.

The yowie! Not as scary as drop bears or the bunyip.

Drop bears scare the hell out of me.

**Kurando** · 05-27-2009, 10:39

Good discussion guys + I am gonna elaborate on what I mentioned in the initial posts about the time I heard one. Here's what went down + I'll stake my rep at the org on it as the gospel truth, to the very best of my memory.

Years ago I was out Harrison Lake which is a pretty massive lake about 60 km long + it's connected to the sea by a slow moving river + seals come up the river all the time.

I was on the south-eastern part of the lake, very wild coast line. I'm not sure what time of year it was, but it was got dark fairly earily. I have been kayaking for 20 years and I often stay out after dark.

At dusk the water fowl were going nuts way across the lake making a racket, ducks or Canada geese I guess, but they often do that in the evening. The sound was carrying across the water about 6 km to my location and I was kinda wishing they'd shut up. There were no houses for about 5 kilometers in any direction, and at this time of year even those houses would be uninhabited.

I was really close to shore maybe about 20 feet, and I was whiping in and out of the little bays that dot the coast. All of a sudden I smelled something very bad; a few years before I had encountered a bloated-dead seal floating in the water and it stunk in a simmilar way; so I got tunnel vision and thought "there's a dead seal in the water" I was sort of floating there in the bay focusing on the water to see where the dead seal was, I could smell it, but I couldn't see it... After about 30 seconds of not finding it I just shrugged my shoulders and moved on.

About 8-10 minutes later I was paddling along, with the ducks across the way still making a racket and that's when I heard it. Instantly I was like "Wow, what the hell was that!???" I pulled my paddle out of the water because unfortunately just as I heard what I'd heard I was on the backstroke "splash" of the paddle so I didn't hear it that well.

At this point I was drifting silently listening as carefully as I could, and I noticed that EVERYTHING on the lake was suddenly silent also.

Then after about 15 seconds I heard it again, plain as could be this time, and the call came from about 700 meters behind me right from the bay that I had thought I smelled the seal. It was a wierd "buzzing" kind of a call, but the thing is it had this presence to it. Like "I'm the King of the Jungle" kinda presence... It's like you might imagine that it might be like on an Africian Savanna when a Lion suddenly calls out and everything goes silent, even the crickets...

Very amazing + I have a feeling that it was in the woods in that bay when I stopped there, but I was so sure I'd see a bloated-dead seal that I didn't realize that the smell was coming from the woods and not the water. It might even have been watching me from the woods, but I just wasn't looking in the right place to see it.

**Banquo's Ghost** · 05-27-2009, 11:42

Sorry to rain on the parade, but the essential difficulty for all advocates of these large, mythical creatures is simple biology.

For them to survive at all, there must be a significant population available for breeding. This population must be dense enough for individuals to find one another reasonably effectively (unless one argues that they reproduce by parthenogenesis). Large mammals that are usually solitary by habit (the common descriptor of this legend) have to leave substantial clues at breeding time so that they can find each other.

Relict populations of large mammals tend to die out pretty rapidly precisely because of this lack of a viable population.

It's the same for the Loch Ness monster. To paraphrase, there cannot be only one.

**miotas** · 05-27-2009, 12:16

Originally Posted by pevergreen

The yowie! Not as scary as drop bears or the bunyip.

Drop bears scare the hell out of me.

Those bunyips are big, scary SOB's and those drop bears are sneaky little buggers, but they aren't hominids like the yowie.

Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

Sorry to rain on the parade, but the essential difficulty for all advocates of these large, mythical creatures is simple biology.

For them to survive at all, there must be a significant population available for breeding. This population must be dense enough for individuals to find one another reasonably effectively (unless one argues that they reproduce by parthenogenesis). Large mammals that are usually solitary by habit (the common descriptor of this legend) have to leave substantial clues at breeding time so that they can find each other.

Relict populations of large mammals tend to die out pretty rapidly precisely because of this lack of a viable population.

It's the same for the Loch Ness monster. To paraphrase, there cannot be only one.

This is why the yowies are certainly the only undiscovered hominids, they are very short, they can hide very well, and very little of Australia is populated.

**Fragony** · 05-27-2009, 13:06

Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

For them to survive at all, there must be a significant population available for breeding. This population must be dense enough for individuals to find one another reasonably effectively

Shouldn't be that hard to find eachother if even we can smell them.

**Kurando** · 05-28-2009, 08:45

Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost

Relict populations of large mammals tend to die out pretty rapidly precisely because of this lack of a viable population.

What would you consider to be a viable population? Would 500 be enough?

It's kind difficult to get your head around how much unexplored area there is here in British Columbia. I live in what you might consider a fairly populated part of the province and even still I can get in my truck, drive for 1 hour, get out and walk into the woods for 30 minutes, and literally within that 90 minutes be standing in a place where no human being has ever stood before. -For someone who's not from here it might be hard to relate to, but it's unimaginably vast wilderness out here.

Here's a good example: in BC during the past 70 years over 50 aircraft (the majority of which with flight plans filed) have crashed and been lost WITHOUT A TRACE, and that's despite some spirited searches by highly-trained search and rescue personnelle.

If we have 50 aircract somewhere out in the BC wilderness with no trace, I'd suggest that we could easily have 500 large animals out in there with no trace.